Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

Definition of revanchist (Entry 2 of 2) : one who advocates or fights for the recovery of lost territory or status

 

An excellent, if bizarre, point.

 

It is true that both Red and Blue sides have come together in opposition to this war but, why so many of these folks have abandoned the core principles of the West - Respect for Essential Liberty - International Law, Rule of Law is a bit of a mystery.

Troubled times bring troubled thought patterns - These folks chanting "Freedom Freedom" .. then turning around and abandoning the princples of a free society - hypocrisy at its finest.

 

Amen.

 

Sovereignty does preclude legal accountability for states which aren't subject to any legal mechanism to hold them accountable. International criminal law does recognize accomplice liability, with the same mens rea type element for actions of agents of the state, but besides the fact that both the US and Iran are among states that don't accept the jurisdiction of the ICC, I wasn't suggesting legal accountability but explaining the US role using the term "complicit" that best described it in light of its meaning.

 

Indeed it is truly bizarre and also sad that I even need to make the point.

Those West-haters are enjoying freedoms within this forum that they will never enjoy in the totalitarian lands they so idolize.

 

Link the video. I want people to see what you claim is a false flag. I've seen it. And I assume what you say is a lie until you prove otherwise.

 

Here's some more bastards for you. And do not say that there is no fascism in Ukraine. Russia is at war with these creatures.
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Subscribers sent such a fierce ****ed up. We strongly do not recommend watching people with a weak psyche, strictly 18+.
The terrorist state of Ukraine must cease to exist.

 

Ahhh - OK - you mean like Israel stealing the Golan heights - on the basis of the absurd justification that Golan was part an Israeli kingdom that ceased to exist 2500 years ago.

Agree that such actions should be condemned ..

 

There were international observers overseeing the election of Yanukovitch so why the disinformation about a Russian installed regime? Are you confusing it with Nuland's coup and its American paid protesters - which even Friedman of Stratfor admitted was the most blatant coup in history?




I'll say what I want
whenever I want,
no matter how stupid I sound.

Because I believe
there'll always be some around.

Who'll take the absurd
and thus my word,
not knowing from where it stems.

And like all fools
they'll never think;
that they should be questioning them?

- Jeannette ​

 

nor sure of the authenticity but seems to be breaking news...

 

Just wait, they'll claim it's a fake video and there are no fascists in Ukraine. I'm to the point now that Russia needs to flatten everybody in Ukraine's military, whether or not they are Nazis. MOST of them are Nazis/fascists or they support them, so good riddance.

The amount of nazi supporters here and elsewhere is unreal. They've been brainwashed to believe that Russia is bad for so long that they actually support ****ing nazis. It's no different that supporting the nazis in world war 2.

 

Reports that Mariupol has fallen (via that city's mayor)?
Irpin (outside Kyiv) has been recaptured (UA Inteliigence).

This would appear to be both the final objective needed by the Russians to announce their revised aims as achieved, and a good reason to call for a ceasefire and retreat from around the northern cities before they get kicked out or captured. I expect the Russians will increase activity on the diplomatic front shortly, assuming the reports are true.
No idea what the Ukrainians will do, but I'm guessing they will initially reject any ceasefire call by the Russians.

 

Ask Zelensky. He murdered one of his negotiators after the first round. Lead poisoning.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tiator-shot-dead-amid-claims-Russian-spy.html

 

Hidden dangers in negotiations with Russia.
Abramovich 'poisoned' at peace talks with Ukraine: WSJ

The sanctioned Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning earlier this month after a meeting in Kyiv.

Wall Street Journal broke story on Monday »

 

...a lot of it going around at the moment....

 

After having offered assistance to Iran before the invasion (and having been rebuffed) the US had a strong interest in preventing Iran from sweeping into Gulf oil fields after the Iraqis started to lose. The only US complicity was in protecting our own interests.
We are again off topic.

 

If this is true than Ukrainians should not use him in negotiation. If one side literally wants to kill a negotiator, than that negotiator should probably be removed from the process for their own physical safety. Besides, what kind of influence could that person exercise over someone who tries to poison them?

 

No, I don't recall Putin murdering any of his negotiators because he didn't like their stance on the situation. People ought to wake up to Zelensky and who is actually pulling his strings. Zelensky's goons flat out murdered the guy because he wanted a peace deal.

 

Nonsense.

 

It goes to show that there is no negotiating with the Putler regime. They use negotiations as a stall tactic, a way to force others into acquiescing to what they want, and a way to put others off their guard until the next phase of military conquest. That's what we have seen with Donbas -- a ceasefire agreement used as a way to stop the shooting long enough for Russia to prepare this invasion and the theft of more Ukrainian territory.

 

meh....



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Big deal. I can see Russia becoming a, somewhat chilling, novelty tourist destination (a la N.Korea) in a few years' time.

 

The hits just keep on coming.


U.S. announces new Russia sanctions over Ukraine invasion

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SBU claimed that they didn’t kill him - that guy was killed by someone else.
Throwing accusations around before the dust settles is counterproductive and makes you look desperate. During an active war many criminal groups can quietly settle scores among themselves, so just because it happened, doesn’t mean it happened on the orders of Ukrainian government. Ukrainian SBU doesn’t execute those who it accuses of treason, so if they allow those who collaborate with the enemy to live, why would they kill that particular guy?