Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Jeannette

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    The people who deny the reality in Patrick Hamilton's videos, (and there are loads of videos), are not stupid. They're ideologues who somehow believe that the end justifies the means. This is why they'll lie, cheat and steal to achieve the end result they want.

    The result that they want though, has been formed by hatreds embedded within them and passed down from generation to generation. Since their imagined 'utopias' are based on these embedded hatreds, the result can only end up in destruction and nothing positive - something we have seen in the past century with Marx and Lenin's communism and Nazi Germany's thousand year Reich.
     
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    Russia wanted a new world order. After it’s been completely kicked out from the modern world, it can live within its own realities - no innovation, no high tech, everything is done manually, and everyone is as poor as dirt. :lol:
     
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    Another Putin "victory."
     
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    .....not one for a bit of irony then.....
     
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    The Russians should go all in now. Any deal without the Ukrainian army being dismantled would be a catastrophic mistake. The Ukrainians would rearm, buy more time and the war will start all over again. Also with sanctions being imposed the Russian military and Russia itself aren't in the position to play a long game. Bring in big guns and simply smash them. Forget about being nice. They need to do it American way. Bomb the hell out of everything in the way.
     
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    He was in the custody of the SBU when he was shot point blank. This is a fact. He's dead. This is also a fact.

    Ukraine has a nazi problem. This is also a fact.

    And Ukrainian civilians are seeing the Ukraine government for what it is, also a fact.

    Ukraine is losing. They will never win. It was lost the day it started. Ukraine has been a shithole for a long time and that's not going to change until the government is throughly cleansed. They have only themselves to blame for not being in the EU.

    Here's what Mariupol citizens think of Zelensky, "**** Zelensky, **** that ******":

     
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    I actually think Zelensky is stalling because the longer he stalls, the more nazis are eliminated. The fact of the matter is that the nazis let Zelensky be Zelensky until Zelensky does something they don't like. If Zelensky did a peace deal while there are a significant amount of nazis remaining, he's a dead man walking. So Zelensky stalls, lets civilians be used as human shields, all the while asking for more cash from the West....so he can parachute out of Ukraine when the time comes. A golden parachute, that is.

    The sanctions aren't going to work like the West thinks....they are going to help Russia and blow up in our faces.
     
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    The Russians' time would be better spent crafting their best possible terms for their own surrender.
     
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    Russia doesn’t have much in reserves anymore and they already lost 120+ fighter jets.
    Reducing the country to rubble won’t help - sanctions would be lifted only after Russia pays the reparations to Ukraine, as it will need to be rebuild, and undo the damage that caused the conflict by handing over Crimea and Donbas.
    Basically, the more stuff they destroy, the more they’ll need to pay to drop the sanctions. Ukrainians are already saying that the money that the EU and the U.S. froze ($1.5T) won’t be enough to repair all of the damage. So, if they follow your advise then Russians won’t just lose the reserves and foreign deposits - they’d need to pay very large sums on the top of that just to get the ability to buy something that helps their economy to regain old labor efficiency (and I’m not even talking about getting ahead). :lol:
     
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    The winners do not pay reparations to anyone. That's why they need to go all in and completely dismantle the Ukrainian security apparatus.

     
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    But the state will continue to exist. The EU will continue to exist. The U.S. will continue to exist.
    Your suggestion is just a desperation that would make things worse for Russia.
     
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    BREAKING NEWS
    Vladimir Putin sells Russia to China
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    Common sense. A draw isn't good enough. The Russians need to smash the Ukrainian security apparatus and then negotiate. That's what I would do. By the way, what if Russians replace Putin with someone more hardcore? Be careful what you wish for. Things may pan out completely differently.
     
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    I think the biggest cretin in Russia is Zhyrinovsky, and he is dying, or already dead, as far as I know.
    The second biggest one is Pootin himself. You can’t get much worse than that.
     
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    Then you are not informed well mate. There are some people that are far more extreme than Putin. And they are in the inner circle. They have no problems using nuclear weapons.Putin's gone soft.
     
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    I actually became a strong advocate of a preemptive nuclear strike against Russia, as it’s becoming obvious that the revanchist mood is very strong there. Basically, nuking Russia is the most humane way of dealing with the spread of Russian fascism and the damage it causes. A crazier guy coming to power would help push those who are on the fence on this issue. :smoking:
     
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    Quite a few Russians were mad with Vladimir Putin for not reacting towards the West more strongly over the years. I know that Strelkov was in the outs with him from 2014 when Putin stopped the DPR from advancing and freeing Mariupol and Odessa.

    Putin was too optimistic and thought the West would come to their senses, but their hubris had no bounds. Now the EU decided not to pay for gas in rubles, so it's going to be shut off in 2 days.


    Bye-bye EU!
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    The Russians have already lost.
     
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    Brought to you by the putin propaganda channel.
     
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    Strelkov-Girkin is a professional mercenary, not a mad man. He displayed a heck of a lot more rational thought that is grounded in reality than Pootin.
    I’d love to see Girkin dead, but if he became Russian president he would probably do a better job than Pootin. Real militarists, who have real combat experience, tend to genuinely care about the lives of their soldiers. Girkin already openly said that the war Pootin started is an unmitigated disaster. ;)
     
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    Ukraine has made them look like inept idiots.
     
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    Have you ever been right in anything? Everything you ever stated turned out to be wrong. Doesn't it embarrass you? I know I would be.
     
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    Says someone who posts the most illogical forms of Russian propaganda coming from the areas of the internet that even openly Russian users here tend to avoid. :lol:
     
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    I can get you a great deal on russian tanks. But they are only sold as is. And they have to be shipped in many small boxes.
     
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