Ukraine. One of the biggest coverups...ever

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  1. cabse5

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    I'm also, for example, butthurt that these dopey 'sanctions' by dopey Biden are gonna push Russia closer to China.

    Sidenote: I'm also butthurt a SCOTUS hopeful is being vetted for equity's sake, er, for reparations for slavery's sake.
     
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    Biolabs or Bio weapons labs?
    I don't know is their is government funded bio labs in Ukraine (same for privately funded) but I am reasonably certain that there are no government funded bio weapons labs in Ukraine.
     
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    I hope we have biolabs everywhere that are funded by the US. Medical research, and particularly the monitoring of possible worldwide pandemics, is the type of thing where "America First" just doesn't make any sense at all.
     
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    I hope you realize a biolab can leak some pretty nasty pathogens.:roll:
     
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    The US does have biolabs in war-torn Ukraine.

    Sidenote: Why didn't the US move said biolabs while Russia amassed troops at the border of Ukraine?
    Could the answer be that the US never intended to allow Ukraine to lose the war??If that were the case, I think that would open up a whole new can of worms for the US government.:roll:
     
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    All biolabs can, just not weaponized pathogens.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I appreciate your use of critical thinking skills and am sure that there is more to the Ukraine story than most Americans are aware.
    After all, every country uses their own propaganda to sanitize what they do and make their own actions look justified while they do everything that they can to demonize their adversary.

    Just as the US has its own Monroe Doctrine that prohibits unfriendly foreign powers from placing weaponry anywhere within striking range of the US, it is entirely understandable that Russia would want the same sort of security.

    Even though I have read stories about a joint Ukrainian - US Bio - Chem weapons program and also read that many residents of Eastern Ukraine would prefer to be under Russian rule, I don't know for certain to what degree either is true.
    At any rate, neither justifies the indiscriminate destruction and slaughter of Ukrainian civilians that has dominated Western MSM.

    Finally, Mr. Putin may be many things but he is not stupid. I suspect that he has intended to address the drifting of Ukraine to the West for quite some time but has intentionally waited until the US had the weakest and least competent presidential administration in modern history to seize all or part of Ukraine.

    I suspect that many Americans will be surprised if and when the real and entire story is revealed.
     
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    Not my future, if not stopped it's GOING to new 'INTRUSIVE" and biased standard for doing business in this country.. It's already being voted on in some states.. I suggest you research it..

    US States Taking ESG Legislation into Their Own Hands - ELEVATE (elevatelimited.com)
    Will THESE states stop ESG before it enters YOUR LIFE too? - Glenn Beck

    ESG Scores: YOU Are Being Monitored, Evaluated, Against THEIR Criteria - Citizens Journal
    How ESG Scores Could Hurt You, but State and Local Action Can Stop Them | CauseACTION Clarion

    Democrats Look To Sustainable Investing Craze As Means For Pushing Climate Agenda | The Daily Caller
    Publications - Understanding Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) Scores, and Why Lawmakers Should Oppose Them | Heartland Institute
     
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    Sounds like 'crackpottery' sources and crazy theories, seriously. ^^^This stuff(the sources et al) rots the brain, it's the gateway to conspiracy rabbit holes man.
     
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    And yet it's being voted on all around the country ;)
     
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    There are biolabs doing research on deadly pathogens, who were funded by the US, Botulism and Anthrax is some mentioned...

    What happens when Ukraine uses its own deadly pathogens in their labs against Russia?

    FF 2:00

     
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    Anyone want to talk about Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca and CIA venture capital company In-Q-Tel?
     
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    The actual claim by Putin's right wing in the US is that there are bio-weapons labs in Ukraine. Such labs don't exist in Ukraine. It's just another Putin lie.
     
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    Being concerned with the possibility of Russia taking possession of those labs, weaponizing such pathogens, then blaming it on Ukraine and the US, the Ukrainians have destroyed those pathogens to prevent that.
     
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    Or Ukraine weaponizing their own pathogens and using them on Russia…. The seed it is Russia fault has been planted.

    the state official already said the biolab contents have not been destroyed
     
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    There are US funded biolabs in Ukraine.
     
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    Actually it's worse, there are BIDEN funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine. And Biden, with his mouthing off that has other European leaders rebuking him is unnecessarily prolonging the war, the killing and the massive destruction of Ukraine.

    And, like all things Biden, it gets worse:

    Dirty bomb ingredients go missing from Chornobyl monitoring lab: Insecure radioactive materials are the latest worry as Russia continues occupation of infamous nuclear reservation.

    Russia already has plenty of these materials, so it's not official Russia taking these items, more likely it's opportunists feeding blackmarket terrorists. It's time for Biden to shut the **** up and let the sensible leaders of Europe negotiate first a ceasefire and then hopefully permanent peace.

    Russia will insist on the complete decontamination and destruction of the Biden Funded Bioweapons Labs, and while I may not agree with Putin on a single other thing, this is in the legitimate interests of all parties as well as the world. WTF else are the Bidens dirty filthy hands involved in in exchange for a 10% cut of the cashflow?

    I miss when we thought he was just embarrassing and not a deadly danger to the world.
     
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    Which is why it was superfluous and a strawman argument to state that the labs in Ukraine weren't bioweapons labs.:roll:
    Bioweapons labs VS. biolabs. What's the big diff when deadly pathogens can get out?
     
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    No one is actually dumb enough to believe that. No one.
     
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    What say you about the indiscriminate slaughter of the approx.12,000 in the Donbass by the Ukranian government 'cause the people in the Donbass never wanted to be Ukranian?
     
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    Big diff (scientifically and genetically purposed for WARFARE vs s & g purposed to neutralize/cure) and, per reports, Ukraine destroyed the pathogens prior to them possibly falling into the wrong hands. In addition, I would have to believe that Bio WARFARE labs have significantly higher containment requirement and protocols. The research is already catalogued and likely shared.
     
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    Meh. Putin also claims that actual Nazis exist and are prevalent in Ukraine. Are you prepared to give Ukraine a pass on fascism (since there are no more Nazis, er, members of Nazi Germany since they died off) and give Ukraine a pass over possibly leaky biolabs because of a grammar lesson??

    EDIT: It also shows your, at least, unwillingness to negotiate with Putin.
     
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    Still flogging Russia's disinformation I see.

    Theory About U.S.-Funded Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine Is Unfounded

    WASHINGTON — Prominent social media users and conservative voices have amplified a baseless theory promoted by Russian state media accusing the United States of funding biological weapons laboratories in Ukraine.

    There is no evidence to support the claims, which President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, the White House, the Pentagon and the State Department have all unequivocally denied.

    There are biological laboratories inside Ukraine, and since 2005, the United States has provided backing to a number of institutions to prevent the production of biological weapons. But Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host, and others
    (like cabse5) have misleadingly cited remarks from American officials as proof that the labs are producing or conducting research on biological weapons.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html
     
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    More importantly, Russia feels that way. Russia has said so numerous times. Russia has been given the cold shoulder numerous times over the possibility of Ukraine becoming a member of NATO.

    Why do you suppose it is that Russia is so bent over about Ukraine becoming a member of NATO and not some other existing NATO country?
     
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    Still gonna use the strawman argument due to Putin's statements about bioweapons labs in Ukraine being grammatically incorrect? You realize the danger is still there for a leak of some really nasty pathogens whether it be a bioweapons lab or a biolab? Duh?
     

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