Ukraine. One of the biggest coverups...ever

All NATO countries have missiles pointed at Russia. To Putin's point, if Ukraine were a member of NATO, Ukraine would use those NATO missiles for offensive purposes against Russia.

You don't care the US could quickly become involved in another 'regime change war' which normally holds the US for decades??

 

Prove it. You can't of course. Given some NATO countries such as Iceland don't even have a military that would be quite a feat.

 

Pure speculation from no one but yourself, and other Put8n apologist.
None of that happened.

 

They iran and the German alliance attacked first.
If Ukraine were to pushback Russia then lead an invasion they would not be in the wrong until they started killing civilians without prejudice.

 

Uh huh. Prove it.

 

Those are universities, not weaponized facilites.

 

There are biolabs doing research on deadly pathogens, who were funded by the US. I, myself, have never referred to them as bio-weapons lab. I never have but others have.. Ukraine could possibly weaponize these pathogens and use them against the Russians or Russia could possibly capture and weaponize them against Ukraine.. Which means the contents of the "for good" labs were then bio-weapons.

The whole can of worms was opened when Sen. Rubio asked ""whether Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons."" Nuland was the one who then started the conversation about biolabs..... if they only have labs working on pathogens for good her answer would be "no".. then she throws in the fact these labs and pathogens were never secured as the Russians lined up on the border in advance and there was concern they might fall into the wrong hands...
""“Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of,” she responded. “So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.”""
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html

"""If there were a biological or chemical weapon attack inside Ukraine, Mr. Rubio asked, would there be any doubt that Russia was behind it?
“There is no doubt in my mind, Senator, and it is classic Russian technique to blame the other guy what they’re planning to do themselves,” Ms. Nuland responded."""

Then strangely out of the blue the State Dept throws out this tweet.

 

Should we be there... (imho)....?

Should our POTUS place us there.... 'formally'. NO!

 

Thank you...

That is precisely the sort of information I meant when I said:

"I suspect that many Westerners will be surprised if and when the real and entire story is revealed."

I also wrote:

"After all, every country uses their own propaganda to sanitize what they do and make their own actions look justified while they do everything that they can to demonize their adversary."

So, I already realized that America's MSM was trying to give their audience the impression that the evil dictator, Putin, just decided to invade innocent & heroic Ukraine but history reveals that there is always more to the story than we are usually told.

For example, must Westerners still believe that Germany decided to invade innocent, little Poland as the beginning to a failed attempt to conquer the world. As usual, there's more to the story than we are told.

The whole truth is that the Poles were massacring Poland's ethnic Germans by the tens of thousands. It was only after Germany had appealed to the League of Nations nearly one hundred times to stop the slaughter that Germany finally took action and invaded Western Poland to rescue surviving ethnic Germans in what was formerly German territory.

Just as Western MSM made no mention of the Danzig massacre and other provocative Polish atrocities long ago, we have not been told about the provocative slaughter by the Ukrainian government of people in the Donbass.

Thank you, again, for showing that there is always two sides to every wartime narrative.

 

Nope. They are biolabs....
DentalFloss is tired of you folks using terms like "bio-weapons lab" and "weaponized facilites."

 

None of it happened? lol! I'm guessing you'll say the thousands suppressed and killed in the Donbass is fake news too.

 

Try running a google search. Not hard to see it's been done since the 40s onwards.
https://theworld.org/stories/2016-07-15/brief-history-coups-nato-nations

That doesn't even include the CIA led coups.

 

Then why hasn't Ukraine used chemical weapons?
For all you know those places could be carwash chemical disposal centers. So unless you have proof more then markings on a map, then expect to be doubted.
I'm going with university's and other commercial use centers. Not weaponized facilities..otherwise they would have been used.
Russia tried to claim Ukraine was going to use chemical weapons, but our spies caught them accessing Russian weapon depots. They have been warned.

 

That's not part of your quote.
Your speculation never happened thus Russia is in the wrong.

 

Yawn. SSDD from you, we've already had this exact same conversation. You are becoming so repetitive I'm beginning to wonder if you are a bot, rather than a human Putin shill.

In each of your examples, the countries invaded by the US was the initial aggressor, therefore justifying a counteraction. With Ukraine, they were sitting there minding their own business, and did nothing to Russia which would have justified their initial use of military force. However, now that Russia started it, it's within Ukraine and her allies rights to fight back, including attacking military targets on Russian soil, though they have not yet done that.

Think of it like a fist fight. The person who throws the first punch is always wrong to do so. But once that first punch is thrown, the victim has a right to fight back, and depending on the totality of the circumstances, possibly with justifiable lethal force.

If you don't start nothing, won't be nothing.

 

NATO nations have occasional internal problems in no way inpunes upon NATO.

 

Oh, Ukraine has a military, thanks to the US.

 

Dude, why can't you realize Putin thinks Ukraine (and the US) were the initial aggressors??

 

The fact that it happened in 2014 and now in 2022 isn't just a fluke. It's been an ongoing situation ever since the oil/gas deposits were found and the vultures took control of Ukraine for their own financial benefit.

 

You beat me to the punch. You should've posted your own Original Post. I would've followed it closely.

 

Ah right internally suppressing groups. Tell me why was Gaddafi removed or Saddam?

 

You realize that 1) it takes more than one anti tank missile to take out a modern tank even a russkie quick fix special and 2) just because you fire doesn't mean you hit.
I didn't put a question mark at the end of these points, because I know you understand it.

 

Most Ukrainian military hardware is leftover Russian

 

the U.S didn't remove Gaddafi

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_...n 19 March 2011, a,the First Libyan Civil War.
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