$6 or $7 per gallon is a small price to pay to defend democracy....

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I live in a constitutional republic not a democracy.
    That's only if you consume televised news. The mainstream is losing the mainstream status. At this point it's just the legacy Media.
     
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    Then you must have missed aarguys judemental deflection a few posts up, that ones surely deserving of a consolation prize.

    Difference is mine isn't deflection. It's fact.
     
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    As they say, your post is a deflection.

    On an established basis, the founders of our republic desired for voters to decide on representatives via elections.

    The best way to nullify the desires of the electorate is to dupe them or to not inform them as the mainstream media (and American government), for examples, are now doing.
     
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  4. Polydectes

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    deflection of what.
    they also desired only landowners be voters
    If you call the legacy Media mainstream you are duping yourself.

    There are much better sources of news that gets much better ratings and outdo all of your legacy Media outlets combined.

    Don't blame the world because you're stuck in the past.
     
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    I blame the mainstream, er, the legacy media for keeping people in the dark. I blame US congresscritters for keeping people in the dark. I blame US government for keeping people in the dark.
    Legacy media and US government, for examples, are anti-democratic. Yes, I know that our government is a republic but our government has instances of designed democracy only in the voting but not in the voting for president.
     
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    One of the best ways to achieve that goal is to have a system by which presidents are not voted in by the majority of voters.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    They only keep the blind in the dark.
    Legacy Media is losing its place as mainstream. It is dying.
     
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    Allowing the majority of voters to decide on the presidency would dissolve the union. The founders, at least, realized this.
     
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    OPEC+ to decide on oil output policy as U.S. considers unprecedented release of reserves

    A group of some of the world’s most powerful oil producers on Thursday will meet to determine the next phase of output policy following reports the U.S. is considering the largest ever draw from its emergency oil reserve.

    OPEC and non-OPEC partners, an influential energy alliance known as OPEC+, will hold talks via videoconference Thursday afternoon.

    Energy analysts expect OPEC+ to stick to its strategy of gradually reopening the taps despite sustained pressure from top consumers calling for the group to pump more to cool soaring oil prices and aid the economic recovery.

    Oil prices have rallied to a near all-time high on concerns about Russian supply disruptions after the U.S. and international allies imposed a barrage of economic measures against the Kremlin as a result of its unprovoked onslaught in Ukraine.

    To be sure, Russia is the world’s third-largest oil producer, behind the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, and the world’s largest exporter of crude to global markets. It is also a major producer and exporter of natural gas.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/31/oil-opec-meets-as-us-considers-massive-release-of-oil-reserves.html
     
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    What a preposterous notion. It's like saying minority rule, which is what we have now at times, would dissolve the union.
     
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    What is to take the place of legacy media to carry the torch of unbiased reporting? I don't see an alternative.
     
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    Majority rule in each state preserves the union. This you, evidently, don't understand.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Independent sources. You should look into it. We live in the information age you don't have to consume news the way we're did in the 1950s
     
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    Using the result of the 2020 election as a baseline, I'd say far too many people are lost to be self-informed enough to have a legitimate democratic function in American government. IMO, the most important point shouldn't be to make people get off their backsides and be well informed on their own. IMO, the most important point should be to provide mostly unbiased news at all times. Unbiased news means presenting all angles to a story.

    You have to be aghast at the censorship and propaganda which prevails in public schools, for example. A public education isn't conducive to someone being an independent thinker. IMO, I think that's purposeful.
     
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    I just think that that's what the boob tube wants you to think you need to disconnect. It's to make you too apathetic to vote.
    Turn off the boob tube
    It never has been. Public school has always been the way the government writes itself as the hero in its own story.
     
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    Should we abolish the vote, then, since people can't be well-informed enough on their own to make a well-informed vote?

    Not everyone has the gift of critical thinking.
     
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    Explain how.
     
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    Maintaining the integrity of anything is to preserve anything in the same condition it now is...The US is now a union of 50 states.

    For example, having the Electoral College determine voting for presidents preserves the importance of every state in the union while using the popular vote to decide presidents changes that current homeostasis within the union and places much greater emphasis on higher populated states (which have unwavering political views). The importance of 'not-as-populated' states could cease to exist or said states may ultimately disappear with the popular vote for president.
     
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    How have we as a nation gained from electing Biden?

    Cons
    - inflation rate out of control
    - more covid deaths
    - identity politics abound and normalized
    - southern border has gotten worse
    - SA won't return his phone calls
    - Putin knows Biden's weakness so he made his play on Ukraine
    - we empowered the Taliban
    - almost caused a nuclear war with his dipshit statements that NATO is now scrambling to walk back...
    - Hunter Biden **** was all true.

    What the hell has been good about electing Biden? Oh. Oh ya...

    Pros
    - no more mean tweets.
     
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    Isn't the answer obvious? Biden was the not-Trump candidate.
     
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    Right...I forgot. The 4 year hysteria...lol.
     
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    People aren't informed when they vote. Blame the media (which is the one sole job of media to inform the public). Blame American government. Blame American social media platforms.

    Democracy (the vote) won't survive with the extreme amounts of propaganda and misinformation coming to us on a daily basis.
     
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    Oil producer group OPEC+ on Thursday decided to stick to its strategy of gradually reopening the taps following reports the U.S. is considering the largest ever draw from its emergency oil reserve.

    The influential energy alliance of OPEC and non-OPEC partners swiftly agreed to raise its output targets by 432,000 barrels per day from May 1.

    Energy analysts had widely expected OPEC+ to rubber-stamp another modest monthly increase despite sustained pressure from top consumers calling for the group to pump more to cool soaring oil prices and aid the economic recovery.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/31/oil-opec-meets-as-us-considers-massive-release-of-oil-reserves.html
     
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    Where am I not telling the truth?
     

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