Draconian Oklahoma Abortion Bill Goes Too Far

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What is this BS -- posting a screenshot .. where you have cherry picked out half the post .. no link back to the original.

    What a joke - and a complete violation of Forum policy .. you could of just typed that stuff in.. but it matters not because the claim is correct .. the claim that "Masks stop the spread of Covid" is pants on fire false.

    What part of that do you not understand ? If you don't sound like Darth vader .. your mask is not doing much - is what I have said over and over .. likely the part you cherry picked out of the post .. cause what was being said and in what context went deer in headlights ..

    Regardless .. either way .. you are wrong .. again. These antics are not up to par with academic qualification .. while I realize that the faculty of education is a joke .. it can't be that bad.
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Because the law makes no exception for rape.
     
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I said Republicans contributed to it.
     
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  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    For god's sake, kwitchyurbellyaching.
    So, then, you're wrong. A P100 respirator does work.
    Can't admit you're wrong? Can't stop bellyaching?

    The mask works very effectively to stop covid and all you have to do is speak up a bit to be heard. You either don't know what you're talking about or you're deliberately misrepresenting the effectiveness of a P100 respirator.

    Here's another P100...
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    We have transit systems many people still won't ride because of covid.

    No one is making you wear the mask.

    It would be nice if you'd stop misleading people about what you know not.
     
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  6. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    If it did, you'd still be against it.
     
  7. LangleyMan

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    So what?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the one misleading people. Never said the P100 does not work ... in fact stated the reverse in previous post you naughtly little deceiver.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    You said you'd sound like Darth Vader. That was BS. They work and that means you can carry on a conservation.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly you have never worn a proper mask - nor understand the science of air flow through and orifice - which is what a proper mask sounds like - P100 or other - Darth Vader.

    So the only one engaging in BS -- "Denial of the Obvious" in this case - is the one in denial of the obvious..

    This after cherry picking masks out some old posts ..running down a rabbit hole - trying to deflect from the fact that you have yet to support your claim that risk of long omicron is more harmful than the vax for males 16-30 that have already had covid .. folks like my son. whose risk of harm .. just from myocharditis .. ranging from less than 1 in 3000 .. to 1 in 10,000 depending on the data set

    Would you like a link to Health Canada .. so you can do the calculation for yourself .. as I have done .. 1 in 5000 if memory serves .. middle of the range .. just from myocharditis .. include other nasties and it goes much lower.. and we are talking the serious nasties here .. "Severe Adverse Reaction" of which long covid is not in general .. extending your uphill battle to make your unsupported anti-science - claim

    What Teacher tell the male students .. falsehoods gleaned from ingested propaganda .. spewed by the Nazi spawn of Pierre .. now rolling over in grave .. lies propped up by the CBC .. the new Joke in Fake News Media .. sad to see.. the CBC .. go down in Fake News History.. isn't it :)

    .Which lesson is the "Denial of the Obvious" thingy taught ?
     
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  11. LangleyMan

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    Below is a picture of one of my P100 masks.

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    :roflol:
    Stop BSing, Read...

    “It's very common to see young, previously healthy people that now can't go back to work or now are having all these issues,” she added. “It’s not the old people or the people with severe disease. It’s really hitting people at the prime of their life and people who never were hospitalized for COVID that just can’t shake the symptoms that go on and on.”

    “Sometimes people say, ‘Oh, if I get COVID, no big deal,’ but that’s a very naïve because many of these patients then will develop long term symptoms, which is really horrible and often life-altering” Dr. Crum said.

    https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-ba2-omicron-subvariant

    There’s no question that vaccines are making a tremendous difference in protecting individuals and whole communities against infection and severe illness from SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. And now, there’s yet another reason to get the vaccine: in the event of a breakthrough infection, people who are fully vaccinated also are substantially less likely to develop Long COVID Syndrome, which causes brain fog, muscle pain, fatigue, and a constellation of other debilitating symptoms that can last for months after recovery from an initial infection.

    These important findings published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases are the latest from the COVID Symptom Study. This study allows everyday citizens in the United Kingdom to download a smartphone app and self-report data on their infection, symptoms, and vaccination status over a long period of time.

    https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2021/...ccinated-are-less-likely-to-cause-long-covid/
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure why your rolling on the floor laughing and salivating .. told you ... unless you sound like Vader .. mask is not doing much .. which is the vast majority . masks that don't work.. cool that you post a vader mask though .. not cool that you position is hopelessly lost .. and you still can't see it :)

    What is this gibberish posting headlines from google .. which is fine .. but no data is given .. and as such a bunch of ... naked claims... Teacher .. did you not teach your students what a naked claim was ... No? No cover the logical fallacies.. .. unfortunate.

    Data mon .. not going to to your homework for you mate .. "which vaccinated are being studied" being the first question you can't answer .. hope you can find something in your link .. looking forward to it.

    Risk of harm comes with numbers .. any moron can cry "greater risk of harm" as the headlines so often do -- omitting the part where the risk of harm being referred to is not significant .. or does not apply to one group..

    Quantification Teacher .. surely you must have covered the bare basics of science and/or social science .. and/or logic/Philosophy and/or math and/or statistics .. somewhere on your path to the position of educating our young..

    Do you not understand "Quantification" - "Relative Risk" something by which one can evaluate a claim of "greater risk of harm"

    For example .. Risk of harm to males 16-30 from the vax - myocarditis - 1 in 3000 .. Now what is the risk of getting "Long Omicron" ..for a healthy male 16-30 who has already had Covid ? where is this given in either of your links .. or something remotely usable for data .. for a whole population even .. making sure to separate the "Unhealthy" from those who are not. time for Teach to go to school .. make sure to learn the golden rule :)
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    You're wrong. If you speak up a bit you can be heard. The mask, btw, was on a counter.
    You ignore more elaborate presentations. Matthew 7:6
    I taught math.
    Matthew 7:6
    You don't appear to have coherent thoughts.
     
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    You are supposed to be giving the risk of harm from long Omicron vs the vax for healthy men 16-30.

    In response you post a pick of a Darth Vader Mask and passages from the Bible - then cry "you don't have coherent thoughts"

    Is this what you taught the youth was support for claim ? .. when in doubt .. just start quoting scripture and name calling ?! Was this a Bible school you taught at ?

    OK then .. carry on :)
     
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    Well, you're making it about rape. Why?
     
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    "Supposed to" according to you?
    If you wear a P100 respirator...

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    ... you can safely ride public transit even when a lot of covid is curculating. You don't sound like Darth Vader, nor will you gasp for air. It doesn't matter if the person next to you is wearing a mask. No need to argue over masks.
    Read Matthew 7:6. It was my tongue-in-cheek response to your demand for more information.
    :deadhorse:

    I bet you're the smartest guy you know.
     
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    Forcing a woman to carry her rapist's baby is particularly cruel.
     
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    It's still not force, but I would make an exception for rape.
     
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    IMO masks are not expected to stop the spread of covid by themselves.
    The far more important issue is that if you have covid, you are supposed to stay at home. Then others have a far less chance of being infected.
    Masks are more useful in crowded places or where covid is most likely to be...doctors surgeries and hospitals where people go when they have covid. But no one has ever said they are fully protective.
    If you have covid and it is at all possible, stay at home. There is no better way to control the spread other than vaccination, which also doesn't fully protect you or stop you being infectious.
     
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    It is force if she's blocked from getting an abortion.
     
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    These P100 respirators are very effective if worn properly.

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    No, there are other options. For one, she could get an illegal abortion. And simply allowing nature to take its course is NOT force, even if there are no other abort options.
     
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    Preventing a woman from getting an abortion is force no matter what other options are available.
     
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    An abortion via what means exactly?
     
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    The force part is when the cops kick you to the curb for breaking the law.
    The force part is where the cops arrest you if you don't let "nature take its course."
     

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