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Draconian Oklahoma Abortion Bill Goes Too Far

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by LangleyMan, Apr 6, 2022.

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe they are simple characters/metaphors to help denser people that can't grasp/learn the idea/concept of "Good and Bad" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    ButterBalls, Apr 30, 2022
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  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Removing options is NEVER force.
     
    chris155au, Apr 30, 2022
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  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You actually think that's an argument! :roflol:
     
    chris155au, Apr 30, 2022
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  4. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    WHY do you think woman are all so stupid /mentallyslow that they don't know that having an illegal abortion is illegal ?


    """Mens rea (/ˈmɛnz ˈreɪə/; Law Latin for "guilty mind") is the mental element of a person's intention to commit a crime; or knowledge that one's action or lack of action would cause a crime to be commit…"""


    Is it your general lack of respect for women?
     
    FoxHastings, Apr 30, 2022
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  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    If the law penalizes those who facilitate abortion, force is being used.
     
    LangleyMan, Apr 30, 2022
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  6. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Yep its force.
     
    Cybred, Apr 30, 2022
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  7. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Its fact.
     
    Cybred, Apr 30, 2022
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  8. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh so because the law penalizes those who rape people, I guess force is being used! :roflol:
     
    chris155au, Apr 30, 2022
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You haven't presented an argument for why a woman has the required mens rea to be prosecuted for getting an abortion if it was illegal.
     
    chris155au, Apr 30, 2022
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  10. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is.
     
    Cybred, Apr 30, 2022
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  11. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    And you have no problem with that particular force!
     
    chris155au, Apr 30, 2022
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  12. Cybred

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    That's what mens rea means.
     
    Cybred, Apr 30, 2022
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  13. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I understand that different things are different.
     
    Cybred, Apr 30, 2022
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  14. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You didn't give a definition for 'mens rea.'
     
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    chris155au, May 1, 2022
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    Mens rea (/ˈmɛnz ˈreɪə/; Law Latin for "guilty mind") is the mental element of a person's intention to commit a crime; or knowledge that one's action or lack of action would cause a crime to be committed. It is a necessary element of many crimes.
     
    Cybred, May 1, 2022
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    Sane women don't kill their BORN kids, but they do allow their unborn kids to be killed via abortion. Clearly there is a difference in their mind between born and unborn. Therefore they're not knowingly killing a human being when they get an abortion.
     
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    chris155au, May 1, 2022
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    You didn't answer post 929.....is THAT "telling"? :)
     
    FoxHastings, May 1, 2022
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  18. LangleyMan

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    Of course, it's being used. Why would you think that's funny?
     
    LangleyMan, May 1, 2022
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    You would say that people are forced to not rape?
     
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    Um, there IS A DIFFERENCE between born and unborn, so yes they are knowingly.
     
    Cybred, May 1, 2022
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  21. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    If necessary, yes.
     
    LangleyMan, May 1, 2022
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  22. chris155au

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    LAUGHABLE! :roflol:
     
    chris155au, May 2, 2022
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    And what is that difference do you think?
     
    chris155au, May 2, 2022
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    chris155au, May 2, 2022
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How?
     
    chris155au, May 2, 2022
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