Peak Internal Combustion Engine Sales Behind Us

Well, the experts in selling cars don't agree with you.

All auto manufacturers are betting on EVs.

 

Ya the EV is so popular that

LMAO

 

Or you do know aside from the power source that the vehicles require the same maintenance as a traditional gasoline engine right? You still have wheel bearings and control arms you still have suspension, not to mention a ton of more wiring.

One of the most pain in the ass things to work on on any vehicle is the electrical system.

And you can bet getting any maintenance work done on these new electric vehicles is going to set you back a lot more than a traditional one.

 

Your faith is touching.

 

I totally agree. More charging stations, energy storage that is better than the batteries of today, prices within reach, probably other areas as well.

Really, I think apartment complexes are going to have to have charging available to parked cars. Home owners can have fully charged EVs every morning. I think that's critical.

 

We haven't even mentioned EV performance/range degradation when the heater or AC is in use.

 

Yeah, I don't think so. I've never had the electrical system on my ICE car need work. And, my last couple cars have been hybrids. The same goes for suspension. Bearings today are essentially permanent.

There just isn't any comparison to the necessary care and feeding of the engine and its support systems.

 

Democrats are busy killing off the mining of the copper and other metals needed to produce all those electric vehicles, including mining and processing lithium, so please excuse while I laugh at the credulous Beleivers in that scam. They are going to accelerate the demands on the electrical grid while have no way to produce the excess capacity to power those rich people's expensive toys and status symbols. The cognitive dissonance is blatant, so it is either a cult for doped up morons or just another 'New Age' scam for suckers.

As for IC engines, as making hydrogen gets cheaper, a much more likely prospect than the EV scam, people will flood back to the much better performing and definitely much better engineered IC engines in droves.

 

First, remember that that message included the line:
“this does not apply to anyone actually building cars, battery packs or installing solar.”

Next, the reason Musk got worried is that he views the economy as possibly tanking.

Beyond that, he's hiring workers as fast as possible at new gigantic factories in China and other places. The US gets Teslas built in China as well as those built here.

 

Hydrogen cars won't use internal combustion, because it is too inefficient.

It's far superior to use the hydrogen in fuel cells that will emit electricity.

IC engines are about 25% efficient. From there, the mechanical energy gets sapped by transmissions and differentials. Fuel cells are about 60% efficient. Electric motors cut into that 60% by some, but not much.

 

They are not maintenance free as you're attempting to portray them. They are mechanical vehicle and they will have problems.... And those problems are going to cost more because they're going to require more trained technicians to work on them.

Bearings and suspension and control arms and all the front end mechanisms will wear out there's just no getting around that.

 

You could run an internal combustion engine with better efficiency using an 80% natural gas 20% hydrogen. That is the mix that seems to pack the power.

 

Yes, they'll still need some maintenance. I've not doubted that.

But, they will require far less.

I've had bearings in my cars that have lasted more than 100k miles.

There will be alignments, brakes, etc. needed.

But, that's nothing like the myriad systems that IC engines have that EVs simply don't have.

 

And EVS will have maintenance issues that regular vehicles don't.

 

LOL! Kinda like the Studebaker, DeLorean, etc.....

 

What is this infrastructure plan -- more coal and gas fired power plants ?

 

Especially if the price comes down, which it is promising to do thanks to a looming worldwide glut of lithium

 

Try batteries

land while you are at it look up Vanadium Redox flow batteries and guess which country just opened two huge mines

 

You try looking up vanadium redox .. am a chemist .. no need to look such things up .. especially because it has nothing to do with the power source..

Batteries are not a viable power source .. you are way out of the ball park ..

 

True, the LUCID that has the greatest range is actually over 170K. Which limits just who can actually have one, huh... The average Tesla is over 50K. Again, the average buyer isn't able to afford these vehicles. There are some serious supply chain issues here as well.

 

This could be a problem.
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US Auto certainly has made mistakes. I mentioned mistakes that were far larger than simply having a couple car models not sell.

However, the move toward EVs by all manufacturers, plus new investment in startups is overwhelming today.

 

lol rubbish. Oil field vehicles used to be natural gas powered, and hauled loads just fine, and of course they are far cheaper to make than EVs ever will be. and like I said earlier, the same cult that is pushing the 'global warming' scam is shutting down mining of the materials to make these zillions of electric vehicles, and the additional power plants to keep zillions of them charged up, even assuming they get the ranges up to somewhere near useful; it's clear they will never get them cheap enough for the majority to afford, and sooner or later the massive subsidies for the rich to buy them will end.

 

Multiple times I stated that the point of mentioning that car is that it shows that 500 mile range is within our technology today.

And, the price of that car comes from it being a luxury car. Batteries and electric motors don't cost that much.

EV prices will come down as manufacturers make back investments, as competition demands, as new lower cost models are designed.

 

The EPA under Biden has also shut down copper mining and lithium processing in the U.S., all necessary to make any reduction in producing costs possible here, and of course just try and get new power plants approved to handle all this increased demand for juice to keep these farces usable.