Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Jack Hays

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    The Grayzone - Wikipedia
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    The Grayzone is a left-wing[1] to far-left[11] news website and blog[15] founded and edited by American journalist Max Blumenthal.[12] The website, initially founded as The Grayzone Project,[16] was affiliated with AlterNet before becoming independent in early 2018.[2] The website's news content is generally considered to be fringe.[2][17][18][19] It is known for misleading reporting[20] and sympathetic coverage of authoritarian regimes,[2][13][21] in addition to its denial of the Uyghur genocide.[25] The Grayzone has spread conspiracy theories about Venezuela, Xinjiang, Syria, and other regions.[26][27]
     
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    See, here you talk about media manipulation then post a hypothetical scenario proposed by some writer.
     
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    That attempt of yours to deflect from the facts presented wad as lame as it gets....you are nowhere near the Swiss general mate.

    JACQUES BAUD: Well, as you just said, I’m a strategic intelligence officer. I used to be in charge of the Warsaw Pact forces in strategic…that was during the Cold War, but still, I have a good visibility on what’s going on in Eastern Europe. I used to speak and read Russian as well, so that gives me some access to some documents. And recently I had been seconded to NATO as head of the struggle against proliferation of small arms. And in that capacity, I was involved in several projects from 2014 onwards with NATO in Ukraine. And so, I know the context quite well. I was also monitoring the possible influx of small armaments in the Donbas in 2014. And I have also worked—because in my previous assignment in the UN, I used to work on the restoration of armored forces, so when the Ukrainian armed forces got some problems with personnel issues, with suicide, with all these kind of things that you had in 2014, also problems in recruiting military—I was asked to participate on the NATO side on several projects in restoring Ukrainian armed forces. And so that’s a little bit, in a nutshell, my background regarding this area.
     
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    Listen to this mean. Forget about the media, focus on the facts presented. The Ukraine was building up its military to reconquer the Crimean Peninsula.

    JACQUES BAUD: Well, as you just said, I’m a strategic intelligence officer. I used to be in charge of the Warsaw Pact forces in strategic…that was during the Cold War, but still, I have a good visibility on what’s going on in Eastern Europe. I used to speak and read Russian as well, so that gives me some access to some documents. And recently I had been seconded to NATO as head of the struggle against proliferation of small arms. And in that capacity, I was involved in several projects from 2014 onwards with NATO in Ukraine. And so, I know the context quite well. I was also monitoring the possible influx of small armaments in the Donbas in 2014. And I have also worked—because in my previous assignment in the UN, I used to work on the restoration of armored forces, so when the Ukrainian armed forces got some problems with personnel issues, with suicide, with all these kind of things that you had in 2014, also problems in recruiting military—I was asked to participate on the NATO side on several projects in restoring Ukrainian armed forces. And so that’s a little bit, in a nutshell, my background regarding this area.
     
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    FYI for those a 'little' behind....Ukie grain is not blocked by Russia, it's blocked by the dumbasses in Kyiv that instructed underwater mines be laid in the ports and in the waterways leading to the ports. If they want to move that grain, they can truck it out no problem. Shippers won't touch it since Ukie won't guarantee their safety.

    As far as the rape and pillage comments, even the Ukie fascist government knew nobody was buying that bullshit, so they 'fired' the woman in charge of spewing that propaganda. She went away much like the 'ghost of kyiv'.

    What happened to that big counter-offensive in Kherson a few days ago? Oh, that's right, more fake news.

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    RuZZia is the worst shithole country in the world. Failed state precedent. In a few years there won't be much left of it.

     
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    Putin spokesman says Russia can't guarantee that American veterans captured in Ukraine won’t face the death penalty

    Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, would not guarantee that two American military veterans captured in Ukraine won’t face the death penalty. In an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Keir Simmons on Monday, Peskov said Alexander Drueke and Andy Huynh were “involved in illegal activities” in Ukraine and “should be punished.”


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...U0uPCx95oZswiTQ9K8aGSpB6mxzB2uMAfsXlzliMBAAA=
     
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    There ya go hyperbolizing again .. plenty o sht-holes worse than in the land of Brother Vlad .. when's the last time you been to the South Side of Chicago.. for that matter :)

    Ol Vlad building .. expanding his Empire .. Paid for this war just on the extra oil money .. Smooth operater ..
     
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    There are no sanctions against Russia. The free nations of the world are simply conducting a special operation to deNazify and demilitarize the Russian economy.
     
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    The decrepit Russian military yet the U.S military is afraid to engage them directly. Only via proxies. A hallmark of cowards.
     
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    Someone seems a bit upset at all the Nazi hatred going on

    Lmao. Chin up old fella.

    If it makes you feel any better, I believe Hitler is unfairly demonized in the west.:salute:
     
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    Trust me, if the USA was able to engage Russia directly with no Nuclear weapons on either side, the battle could last only a few days due to the USA firepower being superior to Russians.
     
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    When you've finishing measuring your Weiner maybe we could get back to the basics, biden v Putin, 3 rounds. The BIG question, Boxing or MMA?
     
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    Its not the firepower, its the quality of the soldiers who use those weapons, the quality of NCOs, junior officers and Senior officers, who are able to manage and run a modern combined military operation.
    Russia has the fire power, 10:1 over the Ukraine, but does not have the quality personnel to run and manage a combined military campaign.
     
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    But somehow they managed to beat the Nazis in WW2 and they'll manage to beat the Nazis yet again.....even if said Nazis are NATO proxies.
     
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    Unadulterated nonsense .. on what basis do you support your made up gibberish ?
     
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    The U.S. military literally laughs at the decrepit Russian military....

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    It's the decrepit civilian leadership in the White House that has no stones....
     
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    Pfft - gnoib is right.

    Look at the lousy/laughable state of what passes for logistics in the Russian military. That's a clear reflection of the fact that the Russian military does not have the personnel to run and manage a combined military campaign. It also reflects poorly on the civilian leadership, starting with Putin. His revanchist misadventure in Georgia illustrated the lousy/laughable state of Russian logistics and he did nothing to correct that problem over the course of the next 14 years. One can only wonder how many poor Russian saps Putin sent to their graves on account of not only his revanchist warmongering but his dereliction of duty. I'm guessing it's hundreds, if not thousands.

    What a half-assed excuse for a military. It's no wonder it's had all it can handle against a force a fraction of its own size and firepower...
     
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    You rambling .. spewing out naked unsupported claims .... followed by bitching about Russia in areas having no relation to whether or not Russia has quality soldiers..

    but OK .. "No quality soldiers" compared to who ?!
     
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    My grandad will be turning in his grave after all he went through in WW2. All a pointless episode when you consider the Billions spent today helping to ressurect them.
     
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    What USA superiority ? "a few days" ? This is laughable nonsene on steroids. USA could not take out the Taliban .. in 20 years .. but are going to take out Russia in a few days..

    The Iraq war waged for how many years ? .. but "Russia" will take just a few days.

    These claims are preposterously false nonsense mate .. someone been feeding you pure silliness ..
     
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