Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Durandal

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    I watched a German video about it today. It really looks like a bad-ass piece of hardware and I hope it works wonders for the Ukrainians!
     
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    USA (president) has never officially apologized.
     
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    This summer will see a series of strikes amongst ALL public sector workers in UK. The rail strikes have started already, they are the first of the big unions to take action against this cost of living crisis that has been manufactured in order to supply Ukraine
     
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    That is your issue. But please dont assume what happens in the US applies anywhere else.
    "To à larger extent Europe has not apologised" is not true.
     
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    And?
    It is quite legal to exercise freedom of speech.
    Let's not forget the EU consists of 447 million people. The issues you mention are the responsibility of national governments, not the EU.
     
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    The cost of living has many causes, including Brexit.
    I havent read any links to supplying Ukraine. OTOH there has been à huge public sympathy for ukranian refugees with people opening their homes to them. There has been no voice in criticising assistance to Ukraine.
     
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    Why does the West consider these demands unrealistic?


    Exclude the deployment of ground-based intermediate and shorter-range missiles in areas from which they are capable of hitting targets on the territory of other participants.

    Exclude further expansion of NATO, including the accession of Ukraine, as well as other states.

    NATO countries must refrain from conducting any military activity on the territory of Ukraine, as well as other states of Eastern Europe, Transcaucasia and Central Asia.
     
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    Putin has proven we need the expansion of NATO and he is too dangerous to be allowed to exist.
     
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    Anyone has the right to defend his life by any means.
    Russia can resist NATO only with the use of nuclear weapons.
    NATO will finally wait for this.
     
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    What I meant by larger extent was, the big dog of the slave trade, America (which is by and large an extension of Europe) has never officially apologized. Pride?
     
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    The critical voices have been censored by the govt. The main cause of the crisis is Ukraine. We fund Ukraine to the tune of Billions. We starve as a result. Elite bathe in gold
     
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    NATO has no problem bombing children and babies if their money train is halted. Look what they did to ghadaffis child.

    HRW’s field investigation at the sites of eight NATO air strikes found that 20 women and 24 children were among the 72 people killed.


    “To date, NATO has failed to acknowledge these casualties or to examine how and why they occurred,” the New York-based group said in the report- Al-Jazeera.com
     
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    I know. It's all à global plot to ...not quite sure what. Maybe you could tell us what the ultimate goal was/is?
     
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    Getting what they deserve.

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    Half Russian separatist force dead or wounded - UK
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    NATO doesn't expand. It grows because nations seek to join it, and it keeps growing because Putin keeps threatening and invading his neighbors, prompting them to seek membership.
     
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    Poor bastards are poorly trained, poorly equipped cannon fodder to the Russians.
     
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    I am simply a student of how the federal government behaves, including its mendacity and deceptions. I am grateful to CIA Bill Casey back in 1981 in explaining how they think: When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts. I am a student of human behavior--how humans act, and especially for humans in government, WHY they act, why they do what they do.
     
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    News from the war front:

    On Saturday, June 18, at 12:30 local time, cruise Kalibr missiles hit the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where a meeting of the command staff of the operational-strategic group of troops of the South was held. The command point was located near the village of Shirokaya Dacha, in the Dnepropetrovsk region, and the hit was carried out by Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea.

    As a result of the strike, 57 generals and officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were killed, including those of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the command of the Kharkov forces and Formations operating in the Nikolaev and Zaporizje areas.

    The "Kalibr" also destroyed ten M777 of 155 mm and up to 20 armoured vehicles located on the territory of the factory in Nikolaev. As specified, weapons and equipment were preparing for a mission to the line of contact.
     
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    Zolote to the south of Lysychansk is claimed to have been encircled, Russians moving north from there on the and are near Lysychansk on the cities side of the river. If a retreat is not made a lot of Ukrainian troops and their volunteers will be trapped.

     
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    More news from the war front:

    A few days ago, two Polish Battalions that were sent to reinforce Ukrainian forces suffered heavy losses during clashes with the Lugansk People's Militia near Kamyshevakha. Russians say that there are about 350 dead and believe this is what caused the resignation of Jarosław Kaczyński. In the meantime the Ukrainians claim that they are mercenaries while the Russians say it was an operation of the Polish armed forces.

    In the meantime, the Lugansk Popular Militia liberated the village of Metelkino, next to the city of Severontonetsk. In the battle for the settlement, about 600 or 700 hundred Ukrainians were killed or wounded.


     
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    Wow, you know it's bad when CNN starts to get it right. There are several American mercenaries in that area....soon to be obliterated or used as a PR clown show for Biden.
     
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    The Finns are not afraid.
    Finland Says it is Ready to Fight Russia. Finland’s Defense Chief says that his country has prepared for decades to defend against a Russian attack and that like Ukraine, Finland would mount a stiff resistance. General Timo Kivinen said in an interview that Finnish citizens would be motivated to resist any such attack by Russia and that Finland’s military has trained for exactly the type of warfare being conducted in Ukraine. Finland’s armed forces have a peacetime strength of 280,000 with almost 900,000 trained reservists. Reuters
     
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    No surprise here.
    US Accuses Russia of Disinformation Over Food Shortages. The United States has accused Moscow of mounting a disinformation campaign to shift blame for food shortages currently gripping Africa and parts of the Middle East toward Western sanctions on Russia. The report was released by the State Department’s Global Engagement Center on Wednesday according to Axios. Axios Reuters
     
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    Why should I believe a word the US government and state media utters?
     
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    Are you the only person that doesn't know the unelected bureaucrats of the European Commission are running the countries in the EU?

    Ursula is your Queen.

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/commissioners/2019-2024_en

    Hell even the Brits figured this out.
     
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