Trump demanded Secret Service let rally attendees in with weapons

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    We have your opinion on one side, and a history lesson for you on my side. The choice is clear. Its me.
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You've offered no "history lesson." You've offered no historical facts. You've admitted you are not willing to address any historical facts or sources. Yes, the choice of any honest person is clear. But it always was.
     
  3. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Ive offered history, you said his story. A white washed version of his story.
     
  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You've literally not appealed to a single historical fact, and you've admitted you refuse to respond to any. Have fun with your Ministry of Truth.
     
  5. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Dont be a sore loser.
     
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    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    I watched it live, part of the testimony was the SS said they had guns and were coming to the rally, when he was speaking. He said don't worry about them they weren't going to hurt him, take away their mags and let them in.
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    These are republicans who are testifying
     
  8. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Of course he did and he knows his base.
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Then why is there video of them repeating the tweet he sent about Mike Pence? He is guilty and if he had evidence of fraud why did he not present it in any of the 60 court cases he lost?
     
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    It doesn't really go that deep, Dur.

    Trump hates everybody they hate. That one, in particular, keeps claiming that he's being "forced" to call transgender people by the wrong pronoun but abandons every thread in which he is asked "Who is forcing this?" So, they aren't interested in details, facts, dialogue or much else besides high-fiving each other posts. It also explains why Trump is in such a tizzy about being banned from social media. His attention span can only manage the 45 character limit since he's stupid, functionally illiterate (he truly can't read) and can lie straight to their faces and it's all good.

    Seriously, think about it. Notwithstanding this investigation, ALL of the following are undeniably true.

    He knowingly lied about Pence's authority (thereby putting a target on him) and repeated that lie several times since then to keep the hate and threats going.
    He turned his back on the Capitol rioters (and was said to be very angry they didn't get to Pence). Can you imagine going to prison for somebody based on a lie?
    He outright forces people to take him to court to collect money he rightfully owes them (some cities won't even allow him in because he doesn't pay his bills during rallies).
    He is a very, very high credit risks and many top financial professionals have lost their jobs because of his bad debt.
    He had his website designed so that money was taken from his donors' accounts every week instead of the one-time donation they intended (to the tune of millions).
    He fired and publicly maligned countless professionals with stellar reputations and long careers just because they wouldn't repeat his Big Lie.
    He has had the highest turnover of any POTUS in the past 40 years.
    He attempted to bully various elected officials and submit fake electors and slandered Dominion (for which Powell admitted she LIED about widespread fraud under oath).
    He lied to his supporters and manipulated them to come to the Capitol and didn't lift a finger to get those cops help.
    He hatefully excluded Biden from transition team meetings (which hurts us, not Biden).
    He lied to us about China's cooperation regarding the pandemic and collected several million from them during his one term as POTUS.
    He set up our soldiers and allies by releasing the Taliban (scheduled to be on Biden's watch) upon them.
    He put his own Secret Service at risk by taking a joy ride around the hospital just to wave at people (but was released the next day so it could have happened then).
    He has been on a non-stop campaign to dismantle all our Election boards and processes to further marginalize all non-R counties.
    He price-gouged his Secret Service (on our dime) and he and Ivana misappropriate inaugural funds (she lied under oath about that).
    He publicly maligned our POTUS and country while praising a dictator that attacked a sovereign nation.
    He attempted to get another country's leader to engage in his backstabbing and when he refused, he sided with Putin to attack that nation.
    He refused to cooperate with the investigation (innocent people don't do that) and handed over shreds of paper and almost 1/3rd of the day missing in phone recordings.
    He may have illegally set up his social media site which is now being investigated.
    He threw his own daughter under the bus. He gave her top clearance and then claimed she was "checked out" on election matters.
    He fired the staff the morning he exited the WH just to spite Biden (that's just petty b*tchiness).

    So, at this point, anyone that still defends him and buys his bs, are willfully making that choice as it requires ignoring mountains of evidence. We're not talking about a few sour grapes here. There is a constant revolving door mass exodus everywhere he goes and that clearly tells us who the real patriots are and who is just paying lip service. Yet, they have the nerve to claim that black and brown people, non-heterosexual, transgender and atheists are "destroying the country". /smdh
     
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  11. Bowerbird

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    Then why are there any restrictions anywhere
     
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    Never. I'll keep reading, you keep refusing to. I'll keep respecting the dead, including our veterans, including my grandfather who suffered in the Nazi camps, and you keep pissing on their graves and treating them as nothing more than a political football for your historically illiterate nonsense.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Good maybe you will be better prepared next time
     
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    Sure, maybe if it that simple that is why all the inner circle asked for pardons.
     
  15. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is an excellent question.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and your proof is what ?

    Oh yeah.....Trump o_O
     
  17. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I came with far more historical references than you did . . . in fact, you had none at all beyond "but it is in the name." And you admitted that you are not willing to discuss any historical facts that challenge your dogma. Pathetic.
     
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    Not always informative, but look at your like-to-post ratio, then look at his...

    Pretty clear who has valid points to make and who has a pointy head....
     
  19. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Proof is in the puddin, clearly.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    I thought i told you not to be a poor loser?
     
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    Even Faux Snooze is calling the testimony "devastating".

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-jan-6-testimony-devastating-1375560/

    “I’ve covered politics a long time,” Bret Baier said on the air. “I don’t think there has been testimony like this — that is kind of jaw-dropping, in a way — on the inside workings of a White House in crisis after, you know, at this moment, Jan. 6, that we have seen since Watergate.”

    Baier was referring to testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Hutchinson was a surprise witness for the committee on Tuesday afternoon, who said that Meadows warned her on Jan. 2 that things could get “real, real bad on Jan. 6.”



    Baier continued to comment on Hutchinson’s testimony. “Bottom line though, this testimony is stunning … I think this — it does move the ball in this hearing,” he said.

    Joining Baier, former Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew C. McCarthy called Hutchinson’s testimony “devastating” to Trump. “I must say, watching this, it’s devastating testimony,” he said before noting that there is no cross-examination of these witnesses.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I thought I told you to try to be intellectually honest and do some research. But let's just step back and appreciate the supreme irony of "poor loser" being mentioned in a thread about Trump's attempt to reverse the results of the election he lost.
     
  23. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Trump didnt even want to win he told me. He said he felt bad for sleepy joe and let him win.
     
  24. Vote4Future

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    Hearsay thus far. Please share confirmation from witnesses that can corroborate this testimony.

    If you can do that, then I will gladly say put Trump away. If not, more liberal spin.

    It is one or the other.
     
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    Would have been cool if he hadn't tried to overthrow the elections and appoint himself as an unelected autocrat, then. Since you have an in with him, can you do all of us a favor and let him know that?
     
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