Does your State own your life?

The child receives protection from the state as they are obligated to protect anyone even to the point of removing them, similar to a restraining order.

The state does not own the child. For this reason the child cannot be put up for adoption. The children can only go into temporary foster care until it's no longer necessary for the protection of the child.

 

And if you beat your child, the state will punish you for that, even if you take your child to another country and beat them there.

And guess what? If you tie someone up, put them in a box, and then kill that person in an area outside the state's territorial jurisdiction, that state can still prosecute you for the murder.

The state has jurisdiction because you are killing one of its citizens, and you are removing that person to another area to do it.

If the victim is an adult who is freely consenting to leave the state of their own choice, then it is a different story.

 

Its important to remember that a lot of really stupid laws go up for a vote all the time. Most of em get shot down.

...but sometimes really stupid laws pass too.

 

A state can't interfere in interstate travel nor charge you with a crime for something that occurs outside it's borders and jurisdiction, it's a scare tactic by the pro-abortion side.

 

Because you are a guardian under that state law and required to protect them no matter where.

Because a significant part of the crime occurred in their state, it would be a decision between the two states in which the more substantial part of the crime occurred, which had the better change of conviction and then which would prosecute. Both can't.

No because part of the crime occurred in their state.

Of course.

 

It'll be slapped down.

 

Isn't a woman a guardian of her child inside her?

 

There's good reason to believe it may not.
Or it may be headed to the Supreme Court again.

Most likely states will be permitted to do this, but they will not be able to make other states cooperate with them.

It's even possible (though it's hard to see it happening in this political climate) that the federal government might pass a law requiring all providers to verify the women they are doing an abortion on is a resident of that state (or a state that gives its consent).

There is plenty of precedent for extraterritorial state jurisdiction over minors (and slaves, historically). You can also look up the Mann Act, which makes transportation of a woman across state lines illegal if the person is planning to do something "immoral" (sexually) with that woman. Substitute "woman" with "fetus".

 

In a very real way the state does own my life. The state (meaning federal and state government) has the ability to put me to death under circumstances which they determine are appropriate..

 

Honestly, there's no reason. Interstate travel has been a right forever.

Ok, I still doubt it will come the that.

 

It's an US adult citizen with ANY child in a foreign country.

Crimes Against Minors Abroad


U.S. citizens are subject to the laws of foreign countries. Furthermore, some laws are prosecutable in the United States regardless of local law.

Under the Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to End the Exploitation of Children Today Act of 2003 (PROTECT Act), it is a crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad.

Under the Protection of Children from Sexual Predators Act of 1998, it is a crime to use the mail or any facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce to transmit information about a minor under the age of 16 with the intent to entice, encourage, offer, or solicit any person to engage in any criminal sexual activity, among other things, the production of child pornography.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...s/arrest-detention/crimes-against-minors.html

But that is abroad and not concerning the state sovereignties under the Constitution. I can imagine it will be tested in court somewhere and end up at the SCOTUS.

 

Yes. I live in California and the level of government interference in my life is excessive.

 

Of course the state owns your life. If you don't follow the rules they can lock you in a cage for decades or even kill you.