Indiana shopping mall shooter shot dead by armed 'good Samaritan,' police say

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  1. InWalkedBud

    InWalkedBud Well-Known Member

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    Kindly cite where I or anyone here has ever stated, suggested or implied that lethal weapons should be issued to children. Ever. For that to be your conclusion says a great deal more about you & your ilk than it does about me & mine. It spotlights the utter contempt you have for those who disagree with you - they couldn’t possibly have more than two brain cells to rub together: ‘Those drooling rednecks are so effing clueless they want to give loaded guns to 3rd graders. Because they’re stupid like that.’

    There are currently several dozen school districts in the US who have armed teachers/staff on campus. Polk County Fla. Sheriff Grady Polk is one of the pioneers of that initiative. Teachers/staff who volunteer must submit to exhaustive background checks, including psych evals. Then undergo intensive training, aspects of which are more rigorous than even his own deputies have to go thru.

    Don’t you wish there had been teachers/staff at Uvalde who had been so equipped & trained? If not, why?
     
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    Hi again, mdrobster.

    I'm a resident of NYC. If some are to be believed, the city's a very dangerous place, with all manner of crime taking place uncontrolled. Curiously, I've never felt the need for any form of self-protection at home nor when I'm out and about in my nabe and the city at large. At 88 years of age, I'd qualify as a prime target, again according to the same alarmists. I must admit to having difficulty placing myself in the shoes of someone who feels he/she must go about armed. I cannot generate that level of fear about my surroundings.

    And so it goes in the Big Apple.

    Regards, best wishes to you and yours.
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    We ARE starting with the "bad guys" Frex do you support "red flag" laws? and why don't you?
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They are not regulated effectively, largely because the regulations are not Federal.
     
  5. Turtledude

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    horsecrap. I used to think the schemes leftwing gun haters came up with were based on ignorance and that their solutions were merely silly attempts to do something. I no longer believe that. The hatred anti gun advocates spew at the NRA and lawful gun owners prove-beyond any doubt-that the real enemy of gun controllers are pro gun voters, not criminals and the "solutions" anti gunners spew are clearly designed to harass lawful gun ownership/ One has to be completely brain dead to ACTUALLY BELIEVE someone willing to commit capital murder will obey a gun law
     
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    plenty of countries do not have second amendments (South Africa, Mexico etc) yet criminals are heavily armed.
     
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    well heroin and crack are not constitutionally protected, yet overdoses kill far more people each year than AR 15s do. I agree with your comment but I note that even if gun ownership was treated the same as owning fentanyl , criminals would be selling and buying the stuff easily
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You're right, which is why most all gun control laws are based on the AVAILABILITY of guns.
     
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    Which leaves us wondering why you think someone willing to break one of the highest laws we have with committing murder is going to care at all about any lesser gun law you can dream up
     
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    Well it's progressively invaded my life it would be weird to think they would just stop all of the sudden.
    Then there would be no reason to ban any of them. If they aren't a threat then it's just about control.
     
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    I’m not even going to reply to this lol
     
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    It's fantasy land to believe you can rid a country of guns through legislation.

    Anybody that believes or advocates for that is an ideologue and living in LA LA land.

    See Japan.
     
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    proper gun control laws punish people who use guns to harm others or use guns in a reckless fashion that is likely to harm others. Improper gun control laws harass honest people with malum prohibitum nonsense that doesnt' do a damn thing to further restrict criminals
     
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    this is the silver bullet that slays the werewolf nonsense of gun control. Gun control advocates pretend the following is true

    1) people who never have used their firearms to harm others, have to have more of their rights infringed upon so they won't do what they never have done and

    2) those who disobey laws against murder and armed robbery will obey gun control laws
     
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    Not one to TAKE AWAY a fundamental right. I know what it takes and it's not gonna happen anymore than repealing free speech or freedom of religion or assembly or to a fair trail et al..................unless of course the progressives do in fact take over the country and just announce the Constitution is no longer in effect and we will all submit.
     
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    Yes. I know.
     
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    Yes, and . . . ?
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    1) gun control laws don't infringe on anybody's rights, unless you think you have a right to randomly murder people

    2) some people will always disobey some laws, does that mean that all laws should be repealed?
     
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    The second amendment means criminals can get guns but without a second amendment, criminals have proven in other countries they can easily get guns too
     
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    what a stupid comment-as usual. Gun control laws are not about banning murder. Try again
    owning a semi auto rifle kills no one
    buying a gun and not having to wait is not killing anyone
    having a 30 round magazine kills no one
     
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    Specifics?

    I'm always fascinated by such sociopathic people.
     
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    Yes. That's true.
     
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    Liberals are angry about this story and the Illinois one where a woman with a gun in her purse saved people from a shooter at an outdoor birthday party. These stories show that the way to stop a bad person with a gun is with a good person with one.
     
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    But we would not all simply submit to that.
     
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