Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

According to your reading this would only protect citizen women.

 

Literally nowhere is it spelled out as a right.

 

Kansas just demonstrated it's will to choose as oppossed to it being dictated from on high.

 

A woman shouldn't have to travel to exercise basic rights.

The feds already regulate abortion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial-Birth_Abortion_Ban_Act

I wonder if you interpreted the SCOTUS decision correctly.

I think women are quite serious about abortion rights. It's not designed to "flog the right."

On that we agree. Kansas is a cautionary tale.

 

The 14th Amendment.

 

So you know more than the supreme Court justices?

 

They're going to get it on the ballot, work against parties and pols who have anti-choice policies, help women who want abortions by sending them mifepristone and misoprostol, or by getting them to a state or country where they can get an abortion. They will violate laws they do not accept.

 

I know politics when I see it.

 

That's how it's supposed to work.

 

Doesn't bode well for the GOP? We'll have to wait and see further actions around the country. It does, however, bode well for states' rights.

 

The 14th in part reads:

"... nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection​

and it applies to all persons, not just citizens.

 

Abortion is literally not mentioned one time in the Constitution..... Not one single time.

 

Debatable when we already have federal abortion law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial-Birth_Abortion_Ban_Act

Women will go for a federal law and so will pro-lifers.

 

Nor fetus.

 

Kansas demonstrated that abortion is trouble with a capital "T" for Republicans. Women will not sit still for losing their rights.

 

Probably because they never imagined people would equate killing them with personal freedom.

But the point is abortion is not a right.

 

they will take this as far as it will go in the states, but they really want a total nationwide "fetal personhood." probably by amendment.

 

i hope you are right about this one. the mobs harassing girls outside the planned parenthood clinic are heavily female.

 

Since when? Republicans just want the PEOPLE to decide not some unelected government body. This ain't North Korea.

 

Nothing in the Dobbs decision gives anyone the right to abortion for any # of weeks. Thats the Mississippi statute that does that.

 

Abortion has been around much longer than we've been a country.

"The practice of induced abortion—the deliberate termination of a pregnancy—has been known since ancient times. Various methods have been used to perform or attempt abortion, including the administration of abortifacient herbs, the use of sharpened implements, the application of abdominal pressure, and other techniques. A naturally occurring abortion that ends a pregnancy sometimes is described as a "spontaneous" abortion or, with the more frequently used popular euphemism, "miscarriage", to distinguish a difference between an induced abortion and a naturally occurring one, but medically, abortion is the terminology applied to either natural or induced."

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"The Vedic and smrti laws of India reflected a concern with preserving the male seed of the three upper castes; and the religious courts imposed various penances for the woman or excommunication for a priest who provided an abortion. Part of the epic Ramayana describes abortion performed by barber surgeons. The only evidence of the death penalty being mandated for abortion in the ancient laws is found in Assyrian Law, in the Code of Assura, c. 1075 BCE; and this is imposed only on a woman who procures an abortion against her husband's wishes. The first recorded evidence of induced abortion is from the Egyptian Ebers Papyrus in 1550 BCE."​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_abortion

The religious right's treatment of women is a disgrace. Republicans are going to rue the day the got into bed with religious types who disrespect women.

 

Republicans have aligned themselves with people who want to have government telling women when to have children.

Egads. You want to pass laws oppressing women and you talk about North Korea.

 

Republicans have aligned themselves with people who protect human life. Democrats have aligned themselves with people who treat human life like disposable trash.

 

Kansas is the most Republican state in the Union and it voted to preserve choice.
How would that hurt the RP in the next election, or undermine the SCOTUS decision to let the voters in the states decide the issue?

 

Yes, we can see that from their opposition to universal medical care that has Italians living more than four years longer than Americans.

You won't win over women with your disrespect for their rights.