Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

yes.

She's accountable to the life she created willingly.

Oh?

"infant would be recessitated if that is what the parents decide" lol

The states will decide on their own how they want to govern this.

 

Yes.

 

If I'm actively committing murder...I wouldn't have rights. I'd be in jail.

 

Her decision, not yours.

So, you figure the partial birth abortion law is unconstitutional?

 

Name them.

 

Nah, I was thinking of your right to vote.

 

No man, or woman, is an island. We are integrated parts of the whole of humanity.

 

Do you support a woman using her liberty to take the life of another who is not a grave and immediate threat to her own life?

 

Okay. We'll mess in your business—no church and no guns.

 

If "the other" is inside of her, yes.

 

Ahhh, the old Dems are as bad as Repubs argument.

However, you overlooked one small detail. Weasel words are not a coherent argument.
It's not so much there are 'weasel words', your is more of a weasel argument in that it relies on vague undefined (and thus incoherent) generalities.

 

True, but only a small faction of republicans support pro choice, so it pretty much is.

Thing is, we can't tell what proportion of republicans in the vote are actually pro choice, or moderate pro life repubs who just didn't want it in the constitution, because it was estimated that about 20% of the vote to shoot down the amendment were republicans. I find it hard to believe that many republicans are actually pro choice.

No, the court erred. Destroying 50 years of precedent, taking away a right once granted for that long, has damaged the court in a very serious way, far worse than what the court did in gore v bush, and what they did in citizen's united.

 

That's an opinion I've heard before.

 

Well, that's where other folks draw the line. Do you support her "freedom" to slaughter this other life rather than simply delivering it if it's reached viability?

 

The correct thing to do when a precedent was wrongly decided is to overturn it. Roe v. Wade is not the first time that's been done.

 

Literally no where in the Constitution is the right to privacy spelled out, either, but it is a right conferred by the Supreme Court in a number of decisions derived from a concept in law called 'penumbra reasoning'.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/contraception-marriage-and-the-right-to-privacy

“The First Amendment has a penumbra where privacy is protected from governmental intrusion,” the Court said. “While it is not expressly included in the First Amendment, its existence is necessary in making the express guarantees fully meaningful.”

More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penumbra_(law)

However, it's now under attack by a radical right wing court.

 

Yes I know..... I have seen you constantly repeating the same thing. Basically if it's not included in the Constitution and you want it to be just say it exist under that

 

No, the correct thing to do is overturn it before it becomes a precedent. But, when you reverse a 50 year precedent, one which granted a right, upheld in numerous cases spanning 50 years, now you are 1. Destroying stare decisis, and 2, destroying the court itself.

 

And you have repeatedly failed to rebut the doctrine of penumbra. Read it again until you have an epiphany.

 

You can always tell when someone's learned a new word...

 

On the topic of ones right to bodily autonomy, dems are just as bad. I can easily defend my position using examples like vaccine mandates, gun control, and higher taxes that force people to labor longer hours for less pay. Like reps, dems/reps are not concerned with ones rights if there is no political benefit.

You weaseled away from the topic.

 

But that doesn't give us the right to make decisions for others.

 

Are you suggesting you have a consistent position? Interesting.

I'll tell you why we shouldn't ban abortion, grab guns or continue the "war on drugs"—people are going to fight you are going to to the end over these three matters. Better to figure out how we can get along.

 

If I decide to murder, you would hope someone tries to stop me.

 

Depends on the circumstances.

Abortion... a woman has a right to not be pregnant and a right not bear children.