Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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    And I do believe this to be a new American Standard.
     
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    Could it truly be classified as a 'work product' however? I would understand treaties, secrets such as the nuclear codes, etc. But let's say for example(again, this is an example, neither you or I know anything, nor am I claiming to know anything) that Trump took among other things, the presidential logs. I argue the logs aren't really work products, they're just a recording of the people who came in/out or who met with Trump in general.

    To me, there's no lawful distinction(and certainly not prior to the 1978 law) between the Presidential notes and so-called "personal notes". The argument of the DOJ's, if it were to prevail in court should signify to the people that The "President" is a placeholder(I mean I already suspected this at the start of Obama's 2nd term, but this would just confirm it.) Essentially a political puppet and we can call ourselves a democracy all we want, but if we have political figureheads then we can't say we truly have the representation we want.
     
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    On what basis do you assert that, concerning whatever it is that this 'raid' was based on? What do you know that the rest of we mere plebs don't know?
     
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    Trump sums the situation up with a video released hours after the pretextual DOJ/FBI raid on the leading presidential contender, and former president of the Opposition Party.


    I didn't think Trump had a strong chance of being elected until this raid. This is so over the top that I think it greatly increases his national stature. As much as Americans love law enforcement with integrity, we hate lawless thugs in authority much much more. This looks really bad for the FBI and DOJ.

    There is no mountain we cannot climb, there is no summit we cannot reach, there is no challenge we cannot meet,” the former president says as swelling orchestral music plays behind him. “We will not bend, we will not break, we will not yield.”

    The tyrants we are fighting do not stand even a little chance because we are Americans and Americans kneel to God and God alone,” Trump urges the viewers. “And it is time to start talking about greatness for our country again.”

    None of this makes sense. It's clearly pretextual, that Deep State's last desperate gasp before the American People go to the polls.
     
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    In that case, they should all be available to the public under a freedom of information request. Since they aren’t classified any more.
     
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    Whistle past this graveyard louder. Maybe you'll scare the ghosts away this time.
    This is the end for Dirty Don. He'll be in Leavenworth before the mid-terms
     
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    The real reason for the FBI raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago property comes out; the Jan 6 sham investigation isn't working for the Democrats,
    Poll Finds January 6 Committee Has Had No Impact on Public Opinion https://summit.news/2022/08/09/poll-finds-january-6-committee-has-had-no-impact-on-public-opinion/

    The deep state is getting desperate and burning down the last democratic constraints to power we have left. As former NYC Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik warns "...if the FBI’s raid on President Trump’s home doesn’t stop him running in 2024, the “next step” for those seeking absolute control of the U.S. political system will be assassination." Never doubt how evil and vicious the political deep state is.


    https://summit.news/2022/08/09/deep...mp-raid-warns-former-nyc-police-commissioner/
    Deep State’s “Next Step Will Be ASSASSINATION” After Trump Raid Warns Former NYC Police Commissioner
     
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    Much as I like the idea............ I a m not as confident. I suspect things wil l get even more turbulent should the possibility of prison become a reality.......

    as the MAGA group wonn't accept that without violence.

    Honestly don't think many truly understand what type of person they are dealing with.

    and MAGA gang have indicated that they would accept T's form of authoritarianism................which the perceive as their "strong man"Most of this chaos is a result of Trump behavior ..........He just cannot gracefully, maturely walk away and with the current administration well...........

    His conduct and attention grabbing behavior is evidence of serious personality pathology If he was poor ......... he would never have been noticed or he would have been in jail by now.
    he developed his defense mechanisms over many years , since a childhood with a critical father who demanded him to be what his father wanted. He has a void in him that needs to be constantly loved, admired and made to feel special A void that can never be filled. His rage is barely contained at times. There is not enough money, homes, and other material goods or power to fill this void.

    He is not an intellectual, but is shred cunning, and manipulative............which are the skills of the "street" ie a defensive thug mentality.
     
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    good luck. have you seen rick scotts 11 point plan ? the repubs have big plans for our social security.
    it has to be in plain sight. if they are looking for documents and see a bloody tire iron in a file cabinet, it can be taken into evidence. if the same tire iron is in a tool box in the garage (where you might not expect to find documents) that would not be allowed.
     
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    Fits the profile of the man...... He and his allies will turn anything into a profit for themselves Unashamed greed and masterful manipulation of a population. ( that seems to be rather gullible )
     
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    They didn't try to take her to court because she could have claimed she believed she was authorized as the secretary of state and could do so. It would have been a waste of time and money. None, not one of the official documents "disappeared" as there were copies of every single official text on the State's or other government servers. It was a pile of horse hockey made into a mountain.
     
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    McCarthy has already promised this come Jan 2023 with him as speaker
     
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    The crackpot wing panics to cover trump's crimes!

    Trump is going to jail for several reasons. ;)
     
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    And most importantly by far, he is Not. President. Any. More. He is not CINC of the most powerful human organization that has ever existed. He does not have the most effective bodyguard in history to protect his person.

    The only MAGA group that will stand up for him now is probably a cadre that will make the Q-Anon Shaman look like SEALs.

    Be afraid Mr. Former President, be very afraid. They are coming for you.
     
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    And what is that "normal Federal judicial pecking order"?:roll: I bet you don't have a clue.:lol::lol::lol:
     
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    Mike Pence knows better. But he felt compelled to say something, given the level of rage of the cultits. You noticed he didn't condemn the search; he merely expressed "concern". Not saying for whom or what, though.
     
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    No one with any intelligence or wisdom at all would believe that a President would allow his DOJ and FBI to raid the home of his predecessor without his knowledge ahead of time without a purge of said organizations for acting in such a manner.
     
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    It’s likely sealed for the purpose of preventing from doing just that. I don’t give a darn about your complaints that things Trump says to reporters gets reported as news. I do enjoying your whining about it though. Cry me a River! :banana::roflol:
     
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    This confirms the repubs can more easily abuse the less educated and most gullible clientele.
     
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    Not going to happen. Ever. A 2nd term as President of the United States is coming though.
     
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    Doesn't help that the Left just added 87,000 "troops" to the IRS. And the IRS has their own military wing with guns and ammo. Combined, it is as if the Left have become domestic enemies of the US. I think Republicans retake Congress in 2022. Fingers crossed. Can you imagine if they start a committee to investigate the Left more generally, in hearings that include rather than be about January 6?
    Congress: Mr. Epps. were you an asset of the FBI in January 2021?
    Epps: Yes.
    Congress: Were you to incite violence for them?
    Epps: Yes.
    This could happen.
    Makes me worry that the Left may have enough power to "fortify" the 2022 election so that this cannot happen.
     
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    How does it not make sense? TFG is under investigation, the archives informed the FBI over a year ago, the archives, who legally hold the papers and stuff for the US Gov't have been "negotiating with TFG and his team for over year to return the stuff they believe he had and was missing.

    The FBI believes some in the TFG's orbit are lying to them. THEY HAVE ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE TO GO IN FRONT OF A JUDGE WITH A SIGNED AFFIDAVIT FROM SOMEONE. THE JUDGE AGREED, HE AND THE FBI KNEW BEING TFG AND HIS HISTORY THIS WOULD BE A SHITSHOW. WHY SHOULD HE BE TREATED DIFFERNTLY THAM ANYONE ELSE?



    Mar-a-Lago search appears focused on whether Trump, aides withheld items


    A lawyer for Donald Trump said agents seized about a dozen boxes on Monday, months after 15 boxes of items were returned
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/09/trump-fbi-search-mar-a-lago/
     
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    Got the order saying that they are no longer classified docs? BUT THE DOCS (AND GIFTS AND MOMENTOS TAKEN ARE NOT HIS TO TAKE, THEY ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE US GOV'T!

    Mar-a-Lago search appears focused on whether Trump, aides withheld items
    A lawyer for Donald Trump said agents seized about a dozen boxes on Monday, months after 15 boxes of items were returned

    In the months before the FBI’s dramatic move to execute a search warrant at former president Donald Trump’s Florida home and open his safe to look for items, federal authorities grew increasingly concerned that Trump or his lawyers and aides had not, in fact, returned all the documents and other material that were government property, according to people familiar with the discussions.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/09/trump-fbi-search-mar-a-lago/




     
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