Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

Sorry the rest of US forgot the MAGGATS allow TFG to be held to a different standard than the rest of US.

Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'

 

I was responding to someone who claimed they were declassified.
If they aren’t declassified, there are two potential crimes.
If they were declassified, maybe one of those crimes disappears … but then we should all be able to see all those declassified documents!

 

Too funny. BTW the bill only passed the Senate, not the House yet. It's a 10 year plan.

 

…Once inside the air-conditioned, white marble-clad private quarters, agents fanned out to search every room, while shocked staff were instructed by Trump’s lawyers to unlock doors and provide the FBI access to every room, including the sumptuous Versailles Master Bedroom, renovated by Melania two years ago.


Another group of agents, including a professional safe cracker, moved to a separate part of the enormous 1924 Spanish stucco building to search Trump’s office and safe.

The demeanor of the three DOJ lawyerswho accompanied the FBI was described by one eyewitness as “arrogant,” and they repeatedly told Trump representatives: “We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.”

Despite the sweltering 91 degrees temperature Monday, Trump’s lawyers were forbidden by the feds to shelter inside the cool lobby, or to observe the search in any way, but were left outside in the baking sun near a parking lot.

The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused…


Trump has ripped the raid of Mar-a-Lago as a political ploy.
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A member of the Secret Service is seen in front of Trump’s Tuesday.
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Trump’s lawyers were reportedly forbidden to observe the raid as agents took boxes from the home.
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The sheer condescending arrogance of the regimes agents knew no bounds. This whole long investigative report is very revealing of the abuses and excesses that happened there. I doubt that the warrant was as expansive as the actions taken there.

 

Except there’s no evidence he’s lying. That’s just your assumption.

I would not be surprised if Garland wanted to ensure there was no political interference and therefore insulated Biden by acting entirely independently. That’s the way the DOJ is supposed to work.

 

God only knows the type of warrant their judge shopping got them. After all, he’s an Obama donor and a defender of Epstein associates.

 

So the DOJ conducted a legal and thorough search.
As they should.

 

Mar-a-Lago search appears focused on whether Trump, aides withheld items
A lawyer for Donald Trump said agents seized about a dozen boxes on Monday, months after 15 boxes of items were returned

...Over months of discussions about whether documents were still missing, some officials also came to suspect Trump’s representatives were not truthful at times, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.


...By that point, officials at the National Archives had been aggressively contacting people in Trump’s orbit to demand the return of documents they believed were covered by the Presidential Records Act, said two people familiar with those inquiries. Like the others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/09/trump-fbi-search-mar-a-lago/


Mr. Trump’s demonization of the F.B.I. and the Justice Department during his four years in office, designed to undermine the legitimacy of the country’s law enforcement institutions even as they pursued charges against him, has made it even more difficult for Mr. Garland to investigate Mr. Trump without a backlash from the former president’s supporters.

...A number of historians said that the search, though extraordinary, seemed appropriate for a president who flagrantly flouted the law, refuses to concede defeat and helped orchestrate an effort to overturn the 2020 election.

“In an atmosphere like this, you have to assume that the attorney general did not do this casually,” said Michael Beschloss, a veteran presidential historian. “And therefore the criminal suspicions — we don’t know yet exactly what they are — they have to be fairly serious.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/us/politics/trump-fbi.html

 

Despite Mr. Trump’s suggestions that an army of agents raided Mar-a-Lago and stormed through his home, the F.B.I. conducted the search on a day when Mr. Trump was out of town and the club was closed. The agents carried out the search in a relatively low-key manner, people with knowledge of the matter said; by some accounts they were not seen donning the conspicuous navy-blue jackets with the agency’s initials emblazoned on the back that are commonly worn when executing search warrants.

...Throughout his presidency, Mr. Trump was disdainful of record-preservation laws, and was known to tear up documents and in some cases to flush them down toilets. It is not clear whether he sought to hold onto material sought by the archives and the Justice Department to keep it away from public scrutiny or for some other reason.


...Discussions were held within the White House by top staff members about how to get Mr. Trump to surrender his boxes, people familiar with the events said; it is unclear whether Mr. Trump was ever asked directly or officials simply did not take the issue to him.

When he left the White House, Mr. Trump took the boxes with him to Mar-a-Lago, packed with paperwork including letters from the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and the former president’s “Sharpie-gate” map of the path of a hurricane, along with personal items like golf balls and a rain coat and various other things stuffed in.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/us/politics/fbi-search-trump.html

 

You're full throttle in quibbles now, but OK, let's play it.

It's true, being President of the United States involves a high number of constraints (something trump never could accept, nor even understand); after all, it's an important and very visible position to be in. Very little of what he says or does is actually private and strictly personal.

You mentioned the logs. Of course they are no longer personal; it is essential for History that traces remain of whom POTUS meets with, whom he talks to, whom he's having breakfast, lunch or dinner with etc..He doesn't even keep these logs himself; they are kept by a secretary and will remain property of the USA.

Being POTUS is a full time job (or should be anyway); that means 24/7.

 

Wonder what they found.

 

Few specifics are known about what the FBI sought during Monday’s daylong search of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

But one thing is clear: For federal investigators to seek a search warrant and conduct an unannounced search of the property while Trump was not present indicates they believe the evidence they sought was worth any expected political blowback

...Justice Department officials have yet to comment publicly about the search, which Trump called a “raid” in a lengthy statement disclosing that it happened. And they may not, despite persistent demands from Republican lawmakers, given the department’s reluctance to acknowledge ongoing investigations.

Violations of the Presidential Records Act have occurred before and are usually handled quietly, said presidential historian and George Washington University professor Matt Dallek, noting that the search raises questions about what was potentially in Trump’s possession that required such a response.

“Usually, former presidents are not treated essentially as hostile, uncooperative criminals,” Dallek said. “That’s what’s striking about it, that hostile quality to the investigation.”

...“I presume that whatever information or documents the FBI wanted, they believe had not been given to them, and that Trump was refusing to divulge ... all of the documents or give them back,” Dallek said.

...“Even if they are not classified, they are federal property and he took them,” Super said. “The act is very, very clear. The first thing it says is these are the property of the United States.”

https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...shows-seriousness-of-information-being-sought

 

On what basis do you know that they have anything that actually rises to that level as compared to all the other times it was supposed to be the end? other than wishful thinking. 6 years of this and it all ends the same.

 

WOLF WOLF WOLF...............

 

That's the other thing that annoys me about the Logs Act of 1978: We made this law, not in connection to the Church accords(the accords that were made post-Nixon on wiretaping.), we didn't make it due to some ruling either. We made this act, ostensibly to grant historians privileged access to documents! It's absurd on its face.

According to Andrew McCarthy other presidents were annoyed by it but just went along with it, It's about time to bring it up to SCOTUS and ask: Does this follow the 4th and 14th Amendments of the Constitution? I argue that it doesn't follow either amendment, and more specifically your post touched on a broader point I didn't even think about until now: All of the time, be we right, left or independent we complain about the lack of quality candidates for public office and we wonder why that is.

Some have pointed to the scrutiny of the position, but this confrontation shows something else: There's a deprivation of citizens rights, that come with being a public official that's untenable. The idea that there's "very little of what he says or does is private and strictly personal" literally runs into the 14th Amendment. In essence, to be President is to give up your personhood for four years(you are now "the President") and the argument in this terrible deal, is that hey you can do acts that other citizens couldn't(never mind would be interested in doing). IE Giving military orders, you can ride the presidential limo and hey you can live in a one of kind mansion called the WH!

We have just discovered why most affluent Americans don't run for public office. It's poisonous. Who would give up their constitutional rights, for a few privileges and a 'neat' public status, that can also have the low of being the most hated man or woman in the world? People tend to think of the POTUS as a powerful position, but it's not. He makes no laws(we knew this from the start), he executes them but he also gets blame for when they go poorly when that blame should actually be directed at Congress.

Forgive the rant, but what some people call bringing Trump to justice,, actually makes the POTUS seat pointless. This is why millionaires and billionaires use lobbyists. The actual ability to change laws, without any of the drawbacks we find acceptable for 'public officials'.

 

And a Jeb Bush Donor as well as Republican Rick Scott

 

What tax am I going to have increased?

 

The Post has learned that the search warrant used by the FBI to enter the palatial Palm Beach property focused solely on presidential records and evidence of classified information being stored there.

A source close to the former president expressed concern that FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have “planted stuff” because they would not allow Trump’s attorneys inside the 128-room building to observe the operation, which lasted more than nine hours.


The raid by over 30 plain clothes agentsfrom the Southern District of Florida and the FBI’s Washington Field Office extended through the Trump family’s entire 3,000-square-foot private quarters, as well as to a separate office and safe, and a locked basement storage room in which 15 cardboard boxes of material from the White House were stored.

Feds arrived at 9 a.m. and didn’t leave until 6:30 p.m.

An eyewitness to the raid said all of the boxes were confiscated by federal agents Monday, but it is unknown if anything else was taken as no itemized list of items was provided by the FBI.
The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump’s presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.


A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.

Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/fbi-even-searched-melanias-wardrobe-in-trump-raid/

 

I know as much as everyone else in www land. My point of distinction with some here is that I have not speculated and suggested (with zero evidence) that the Warrant was corruptly based.

 

The search warrant is under seal.....derp!!

 

I don't think that it was corruptly based. Just people jumping at made up or exaggerated intel.

 

I see our Karens are shocked, simply shocked, to see that a search warrant involves searching.

 

Actually, not at all. If this report is true, there's several issues. The biggest and primary one is that a warrant designates what's to be searched and what to look for. In the report, it's not even clear if they had a special team to sort out documents of attorney-clients(as the case was in the Cohen raid for example, and as the case was in the Clinton case.(in that case, her lawyer actually personally oversaw that process. Talk about privilege.)

And I highly doubt for example, that documents were located in Melanie's dressing room. These are more Fourth Amendment violations, through and through. Trump's attorneys should immediately sue the government for damages. And the government can't hide behind its immunity, because it has none relative to private citizens. And yes, that's exactly what Trump is now, remember?

 

You accept that you don’t know the contents of the warrant, but you are confident that the FBI went beyond what was set out in the warrant?

That’s beyond speculation. If you’re right, I’m sure we will hear about it very soon. But I’ll bet we don’t, because I expect the FBI and DOJ were VERY careful to play this entirely by the book. This is so high-profile that it’s hard to imagine them doing anything else.

 

Bring it on Baby,
Let's just see where this goes.