Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. ToughTalk

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    These idiots know that the more outragious they act against Trump, the more they strengthen his base?

    I sure as hell hope you've found something because if not...oi.
     
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    ---and I blame the poster for projection.
     
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    Trump is openly discussing his case so the DOJ should be able to do the same. Garland should at least let the public know why Trump's home was raided. Yet we hear nothing. If they had something by now it would be all over the news. I'm guessing they got squat.
     
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    I have not read any appelate caselaw suggesting there is this specific 'high burden of proof' to prove it is warranted, for a former President's residence. Its exactly the same burden established as your well lived- in RV or cockroach invested WATTS public housing. They simply need probable cause that crime has been committed and a prosecutor interested in pursuing a case.

    Evidently YOU need a high burden of proof for this warrant. Thank goodness you aren't wearing a robe, because I for one am tired of constraining the arm of justice when people with money, power and hubris break the law. This case needs a team of prosecutors who are willing to put aside all those political considerations you mentioned above, and treat it, no differently than if it were former DC Marion Barry refusing to file his taxes 8 of the last 9 years.
     
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    Because the other poster believes without facts other things were found in Trump's possession.
     
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    Well I heard that it was a republican judge that authorized it!:banana:
     
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    Don't follow it very well huh? Hint the national archives

    10/17/2017

    National Archives officials have periodically warned White House lawyers that the Trump administration needs to follow document preservation laws, according to people familiar with the conversations and emails reviewed by POLITICO.

    The White House legally must preserve all presidential records, which are given to the National Archives after the president leaves office and are used for historical records. The documents that must be preserved include written memos, emails, speeches, record logs and more.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/17/national-archives-trump-documents-preserve-243888

    January 2021
    The National Archives said it received a collection of documents from the White House at the end of the administration. It later said that many had been torn up and taped back together, and that others were handed over in scraps that officials had never reconstructed.


    January 2022

    It was later revealed that in mid-January, the National Archives had succeeded in retrieving 15 boxes of materials taken from the White House at the end of Mr. Trump’s term and stored at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club and residence in Palm Beach, Fla. The agency said it had negotiated with Mr. Trump’s lawyers throughout 2021 to have the materials returned.


    The boxes included a number of personal letters and gifts Mr. Trump had received, including correspondence with Kim Jong-un and a congratulatory letter that former President Barack Obama left for Mr. Trump.

    February 2022
    Sometime after receiving the boxes, the National Archives discovered what appeared to be classified information within the documents Mr. Trump had held onto and flagged the incident to the Justice Department for guidance.

    April 2022
    In response to the National Archives’ referral to the Justice Department in February, federal authorities apparently began their own investigation into how classified information ended up at Mr. Trump’s Florida home.


    In April, the Justice Department instructed the National Archives not to share any further details about the materials found at Mar-a-Lago with the House Oversight Committee, suggesting that the F.B.I. was in the preliminary stages of a criminal investigation.

    May 2022
    In early May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents found within the boxes recovered from Mar-a-Lago. Authorities also requested interviews with several White House officials present in the final days before Mr. Trump left the White House.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/us/politics/trump-classified-records-timeline.html

    TFG DOESN'T NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAW, AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE OK WITH IT
     
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    Oh, so the FBI using a search warrant to retrieve what the Orange Catastrophe has isn't a strong sign that he had government documents in his possession? Hmmm. Seems like badly misplaced cynicism.
     
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    And if nothing of substantial evidence is found will it still be considered a legal search?
     
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    Maybe at best. This event is so political that we can't know the motivation for it or expected outcome from it.
     
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    You assume too much.
     
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    The DOJ is a law enforcement entity. There are obviously restrictions on their ability to speak about an ongoing investigation. And rightly so.
     
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    You are easily fooled.
     
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    It is not a 'case', and no he is not.
     
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    Yes, TFG is, as always, disparaging law enforcement and giving false premises, distortions and lies like he always does.

    In general, the Department of Justice does not publicly announce investigations or investigative findings. There are several reasons for this policy. Announcing an investigation of some civil or criminal violations could make it more difficult to obtain witness cooperation or gather evidence.

    The Department's policy is described in the United States Attorneys Manual and regulations.
    https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-1-7000-media-relations#1-7.530
     
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    Is the FBI supposed to be credible?

    "In a search warrant and affidavit that an FBI agent swore"?

    By now everyone knows FBI agents lie like rugs, and you just pointed out that a Director of the FBI is suspected of rigging the 2016 election for Trump.

    What is a sworn affidavit

    BUZZFEED NEWS, The FBI Investigation Into The Alleged Plot To Kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer Has Gotten Very Complicated, The case seemed like a lock — until an informant and one ***FBI agent were charged with crimes***, another was accused of ***perjury***, and a third was found promoting a private security firm. And that wasn’t all. , By Jessica Garrison and Ken Bensinger, December 16, 2021. (*** mine)
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/fbi-michigan-kidnap-whitmer
     
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    Politicians and random people on the internet don't affect my emotions. I don't see weaponizing the IRS and FBI for political purposes as something good for the country. Do you have anything relevant or are you here to be an example of why forums have an "ignore" feature?
     
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    Whether or not they find anything does not change whether or not the warrant was legal.
     
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    Trumpy didn’t say it was sealed.
    How did he know why they were there if it was?
     
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    Not an assumption at all. A hypothesis.
     
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    "TFG"?
     
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    The DOJ doesn't like to publicly talk about cases. They have several policies against doing so. Trump, however, can share the warrant any time he wants to. Garland isn't going to say much about an ongoing investigation . . . no professional ever would. Trump can tell you what this about today. He won't. My guess is he'd be embarrassed if the truth came out, and my "guess" has more backing than yours. No, it wouldn't be "all over the news" if they found something unless there was major leak, and even then we have reporting of them leaving with boxes of documents.
     
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    Well, that is the blame game. ;-)
     
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    Where is your evidence of such "weaponization" for "political purposes"?
     
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