Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. JonK22

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    The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. §§ 2201–2209, is an Act of the United States Congress governing the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents created or received after January 20, 1981, and mandating the preservation of all presidential records.

    Enacted November 4, 1978,[2] the PRA changed the legal ownership of the President's official records from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents must manage their records. The PRA was amended in 2014, to include the prohibition of sending electronic records through non-official accounts unless an official account is copied on the transmission, or a copy is forwarded to an official account shortly after creation
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presi...(PRA,preservation of all presidential records.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    TDS on display. It's very common and easily diagnosed whenever they make ridiculous claims about Trump.
     
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  3. JonK22

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    True, but, after he's out of office, as a private citizen, THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE GOV'T PROPERTY AND NEEDED TO BE MARKED AS SPECIFIED BY STATUTE. Your premise is the documents are his, they are not.

    Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. §§ 2201–2209, is an Act of the United States Congress governing the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents created or received after January 20, 1981, and mandating the preservation of all presidential records.
     
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    Are you obliquely arguing against the completely logical presence of a mole/whistleblower?? Who could tell the FBI there are still documents at MAL and where some of them are??

    I suspect you'll be proven wrong on this topic.... It just makes too much sense to not be true....

    EDIT - I finished reading the link I posted a bit earlier.... seems the completely logical paranoia is kicking in as well

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    It reported that people close to Trump were suspicious after the raid.

    Rolling Stone also reported, citing anonymous sources close to Trump, that the former president and his advisors were desperately trying to root out this person, with Trump said to be concerned that Republicans and people close to him might be wearing wires.

    He asked his close aides if they thought he may be under surveillance by the authorities, the report said.
    ENDSNIP
     
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    The FBI has not come to a similar conclusion.
     
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    Of course not. The democrats will do anything to keep talking about trump. They'll do anything to keep the focus off this administration and the direction they're pushing the country. They know if the conversation drifts to those things, they'll look terrible. Fortunately for democrats the left has such hatred for trump that it just might work because when it comes to trump, the left is easily distracted with trivial things and can completely ignore what actually matters.
     
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    This is so damn dumb it's not funny. Every President has taken things with them at the end of their term. Some even paintings and furniture. This illusion that you can't take any documents is beyond ignorant!
     
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  8. Golem

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    That's up to attorneys and juries. I just know what has been proven to any reasonable and moderately informed person. Like the hijackers on 9-11 were proven guilty even though they were never on trial. Denying the overwhelming evidence just because there hasn't been a trial yet is just an excuse. The point is that ANYBODY who cares to look at the facts KNOWS that Trump is a criminal. The evidence is abundant, clear and overwhelming. Anybody who denies that is simply denying reality.

    Things CAN be proven without a trial. That the Earth revolves around the sun was proven beyond a reasonable doubt even BEFORE Galileo went on trial.

    So your excuse is utter nonsense. And it's sad when people just stop thinking rationally just because they worship a politician

    Obviously you can't send him to prison without a ttrial. But to say that he can't be PROVEN guilty without a trial is just denying reality
     
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    He was negotiating with both the Archivist and FBI on the document matter. I see no reason why he couldn't take them with him to sort through when it was convenient. It's not as if he set a new precedent (check the facts). The FBI, in June, only advised him to secure them in a locked room (after viewing the documents). Now if they knew then that he was illegally in possession of them they should of advised him he had to return them, not secure them.
     
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    I've been ignoring emails and texts from Trump for years now. And to bring you up to speed, I have never voted for him. I vote LP for years.

    That said, there is no doubt at all that the Deep Administrative State has it out for him, to the point that they brought the Russiagate and impeachment scams, and that they stole the election of 2020 to have their man Josef The Imposter installed as POTUS.
     
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    It is perfectly legal for him to publish both the warrant served to him and the inventory list of what they took. If it was ridiculous (like birthday cards), then he should show that.
     
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    If you feel that way, you should be pressing Republicans to hold Dems' feet to the fire as well.
     
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    Yeah. That was a dumb error.
     
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    As well as everyone KNOWS Hillary, Biden and Hunter are criminals. Anybody who denies that is simply denying reality. They are criminals on both the left and the right. Yet, people keep voting them to office because people are sheep and mass media repeated reinforcement makes them do whatever they want you to do.

    So your excuse is utter nonsense. And it's sad when people just stop thinking rationally just because they worship a politician including Biden, Hillary and anybody on the left just as much as anybody on the right.
     
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    he can’t. It’s sealed and according to his attorney they didn’t give him a copy.
     
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    Yeah, I won't insist, either. Don't take my word for it... but ask someone you trust who has ever held a TS security clearance if what Hillary did broke NSA protocol, and thus the LAW, for handling classified information -- and then you ignore that, too.

    As for Trump... let be him charged with SPECIFIC CRIMES or drop it! Oh, wait! Many of us requested that same thing about both impeachment farces, but what good did it do? I only hope the idiot-fringe Left doesn't make a martyr out of Trump... but if Garland and the FBI keep it up, then that is exactly what they are likely to do....
     
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    Yes they will. But that doesn't in any way remove the fact that he's a criminal. And that everything seems to be indicating that he WILL have to pay for his crimes.

    So when the time comes, some will be ready for it, and others will be on Fox looking stupid and saying that they "never expected it"
     
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    That I will agree with... it all should have been seized ON THE SPOT

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    In January, Trump handed over 15 boxes of materials to government record-keepers amid concern he may have violated the Presidential Records Act.

    Then, in June, Justice Department investigators, including a senior counterintelligence official, returned to him and were shown a basement room that contained government records, including some that had classified markings, according to multiple reports.
    ENDSNIP

    https://thehill.com/policy/national...-search-makes-clear-trump-is-target-of-probe/
     
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    And that justifies a raid on an ex presidents home? Bahahah good luck with that in the election
     
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    Yes, the National Archives trying to get back US Gov't property for a year and a half, and TFG mishandling classified documents for that period, nothing to see here according to MAGGATS
     
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    I'm saying it's just political grandstanding with no substance, not unlike two kangaroo impeachments.
     
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    Which means that Republicans are denying reality because they keep exonerating Hillary again and again....
     
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    Provide any evidence that the national archives requested the “missing” documents that Trump had after they took the original box of 15
     
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    The point is, given the cooperation and the return of the 15 boxes this was not something that required a raid(or a 'search' given that they knew where it alll was.). So, what does that amount to? For me, it amounts to an abuse of power. And it means Merrick Garland lied when he said he'd have an independent DOJ. Merrick Garland should be impeached and removed, and the Senate should write emergency legislation that allows them to override a Presidents pick and to pick the new AG themselves. We can no longer trust Biden to make decisions that a president should make.

    (All of Biden's appointees have either been lip-service or paybacks to party members and donors. We need qualified people in these positions.)
     
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    Well, then I can safely ignore somebody with that limited a viewpoint on serious issues.... thanks!
     

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