Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

*LOL*

You've failed and you've flailed. You lose.

 

That would be the argument a 5 year old would make.
Care to try again or is this the best you have

 

You were too busy to read to the end of your article?
"However, experts cautioned that nothing is ordinary about the current situation involving Trump. In such an unusual and high-stakes scenario, it’s hard to be too certain about how the courts would rule."

"We’re in uncharted territory on the issue of criminally prosecuting a former president over mishandling classified documents," Moss said. "There is no legal precedent to look to for guidance. It raises all sorts of constitutional implications and it is anyone’s guess how it would play out."

 

Suuuure. Tell us all here Nostradamus,
What is in the documents recovered?
What is their classification?

Deflection with yet another Orange man bad rant coming in 3----2----1----

 

Presidents usually review documents before putting them into their libraries , especially for documents they do not want to make public.

 

Not responsive too anything in my post.

 

It doesn't matter what you think should be done
It doesn't matter how you think it should be done
It doesn't matter how many post you throw together with every hypothetical story you can make up

The SCOTUS ruled on it and the Constitution provides it that any president can declassify any document AT WILL and goes even further to say that not even an act of congress can intervene. .
There is NO requirement for the president after that.
End of story

Now, if you can provide a document from a former president who has written and EO stating anything different, then do it.
But you can't because NOTHING you have posted overrules the SCOTUS or the Constitutional article.

So put up or shut up

 

FBI searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home for classified nuclear weapons documents

– report | Donald Trump | The Guardian

snip:

"The suspected presence of nuclear weapons documents at Mar-a-Lago could explain why Garland took such a politically charged and unprecedented step as ordering FBI agents into a former president’s house.

Trump was particularly fixated on the US nuclear arsenal while he was in the White House, and boasted about being privy to highly secret informationIn the summer of 2017 he told US military leaders he wanted an arsenal comparable to its cold war peak, which would have involved a tenfold increase, a demand that reportedly led the then secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, describe him as a “****ing moron”. Trump publicly threatened to obliterate both North Korea and Afghanistan

In his book on the Trump presidency, Rage, Bob Woodward quoted the former president as telling him: “We have stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before. There’s nobody – what we have is incredible.”

Woodward said he was later told the US did indeed have an unspecified new weapons system, and officials were “surprised” that Trump had disclosed the fact.

Cheryl Rofer, a chemist who worked on nuclear weapons at the Los Alamos national laboratory said there were varying classification levels applying to different kinds of documentation.

“Information about the design of nuclear weapons is called Restricted Data and is ‘born classified’. That means it is assumed to be classified unless declassified,” Rofer, who writes a blog titled Nuclear Diner, wrote on Twitter. But she added: “There’s no reason for a president to have nuclear weapons design information that I can see.”

Among the nuclear documents that Trump would routinely have had access to would be the classified version of the Nuclear Posture Review, about US capabilities and policies. A military aide is always close to the president carrying the “nuclear football”, a briefcase containing nuclear strike options, but it would be unusual for those documents to be taken out of the football.

Another possibility Rofer pointed to is that Trump could have retained his nuclear “biscuit”, a piece of plastic like a credit card with the identification codes necessary for nuclear launch. Those codes would have been changed however the moment Biden took office at noon on 20 January 2021."

 

JFC you cannot be that obtuse

There is a process. He cant just wave a wand and say “I declassify thee”….

FFS man

 

Already read and debunked.

 

You should keep posting irrelevant stuff. It's a winning formula.

 

Oh, yes he can!

 

Fumbling the nuclear football: is Trump blundering to arms control chaos?

| Nuclear weapons
The Guardian
May 24,2020

Snip:

"The president believes he alone can negotiate away nuclear weapons and win a Nobel prize – but he has quit three treaties and gutted his administration of experts

The Trump administration signaled this week that it was ready to get back in the business of nuclear arms control. A newly appointed envoy, Marshall Billingslea, made his first public remarks to announce talks with Russia are about to resume.

“We have concrete ideas for our next interaction, and we’re finalizing the details as we speak,” Billingslea said.
The fact that this relaunch came on the same day that the US was pulling out of the Open Skies Treaty (OST) – the third withdrawal from an arms control agreement under the Trump presidency – underlined the contradictions at the heart of the administration’s approach towards nuclear weapons.

According to those who have worked for him on the issue, Trump is preoccupied with the existential threat of nuclear war, and resolved that he alone can conjure a grand arms control bargain that would save the planet – and win him the Nobel prize.

But at the same time, he is clearly thrilled by the destructive power that the US arsenal gives him, boasting about the size of his nuclear button, and a mystery “super duper” missile he this week claimed the US had up its sleeve.

Administration officials have been left to try to confect a coherent-sounding policy out of such contradictory impulses – so far without success.
“He believes only he has what it takes to make the big deal, if only everyone else – all the experts – would get out of his way,” a former senior official said. “But he just has no idea about how to make it happen.”

Billingslea, the new envoy, is not an arms control specialist. He previously served as the undersecretary for terrorist financing at the US Treasury and was nominated last year to the top human rights job at the state department – but that foundered amid controversy over his involvement in the post 9/11 torture programme . The arms control envoy job did not require Senate confirmation.

n his maiden speech as envoy, Billingslea made clear that if there were to be a new arms race, the US would win.

“We know how to win these races and we know how to spend the adversary into oblivion,” he said in a videoconference organised by the conservative Hudson Institute thinktank on Thursday. It was a statement of bravado as the US plunged into recession owing about $7tn in foreign debt, $1tn to China.

Billingslea argued Trump would succeed through his mastery of the art of the deal.

“The president has a long and successful career as a negotiator, and he’s a master at developing and using leverage,” he said, showing an early instinct for what it takes to keep your job in this administration.

So far, however, Trump has failed to negotiate a single arms control agreement. His flamboyant summitry with Kim Jong-un produced nothing, and the North Korean nuclear weapons programme has continued unabated. Meanwhile the president has taken the US out of three arms control agreements, leaving them dead, dying or maimed.
He walked out of the nuclear deal with Iran in 2018, and the following year withdrew from the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, which had kept nuclear missiles out of Europe since the cold war. Then on Thursday, he confirmed the US was leaving the OST, agreed in 1992 as a means of building transparency and trust between Russia and the west through observation overflights of each other’s territory.

That may not be the end of Trump’s arms control demolition. The Senate never ratified the 1996 Comprehensive Test Ban treaty, which – partly as a result – has yet to come into force. But the US has signed it and observes a voluntary moratorium on nuclear tests."

cont @ link

 

Leave it to you to go to some radical extreme to make a point nobody claimed.
Nobody claimed a President can willy-nilly place the entire nation at risk.
Haven't we seen that over and over and over with the SCOTUS ruling on the right to bear arms?
How is that working for ya.
So nobody cares what some lawyer said about a SCOTUS ruling and it has no effect on the SCOTUS ruling what so ever?

Your attorneys opinion doesn't mean squat

The SCOTUS ruled on it and the Constitution provides that a president can declassify any document AT WILL and goes even further to say that not even an act of congress can intervene. .
There is NO requirement for the president after that.
End of story

Now, if you can provide a document from a former president who has written and EO stating anything different, then do it.
But you can't because NOTHING you have posted overrules the SCOTUS or the Constitutional article.
Nice try but laughable at best.

You will let everyone know when your attorneys opinion overrules the SCOTUS and the Constitution, won't you. lol

 

Nothing I have written is inconsistent with what you claim. For the purpose of this discussion I will assume that the president has the absolute and unfettered right to declassify anything, and does need to follow any particular procedure in order to do so.

So let’s assume the president does declassify a particular document by sitting in his office alone, pointing at it and saying “I hereby declassify you”.

Now it’s declassified. Not just for him, but for the whole world. As a practical matter isn’t it essential that he tells everyone else who deals with classified documents so they can deal with it properly?

Don’t worry. I don’t really expect you to answer. I know you will run away from this with your tail between your legs.

 

Yeah, he can
The SCOTUS ruled on it and the Constitution provides that a president can declassify any document AT WILL and goes even further to say that not even an act of congress can intervene. .
There is NO requirement for the president after that.
End of story

Sorry about your luck

 

You are trying to make fake comparisons.

If a president declassifies a document that is crucial to national security of course it is going to be documented. And his staff is REQUIRED to change the status of those documents he declassifies.
If he is declassifying something he intends to keep like a letter, photographs, personal items, correspondence that isn't a national security item, isn't provided to any other source, and in his own custody and control. why would he even bother to list it?

Those laws were put in place so the president has the ability to make decisions freely without having to get approval from others for the thousands of items he has to deal with every day.

But if you want to take into ridiculous land, and claim (He can't declassify military secrets) YES, he can. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't have consequences. Declassifying Nuclear codes, then texting them to Putin, is a crime. Can he declassify them? YUP. Would he go to prison for treason? YUP

 

Right, So according to you, the actual evidence you have no clue about or access to is irrelevant stuff.
Attorney my ass.

 

Show me.

 

Why would he go to prison for sending completely unclassified information to someone?

 

If he knowingly declassified a document that compromises the security of the US he is accountable for that. He can declassify anything he wants.
But there is accountability. So If Trump declassified our latest military weapon system secrets, then took them home and refused to return them making that information vulnerable, yeah, thats a problem.

 

What’s the problem with releasing unclassified documents?
Once they’re unclassified they aren’t secret any more.
What’s the crime in releasing unclassified information?

 

Intent.

 

How can one , when he is still such a large influence on many........and is in the middle of so many legal issues??......and continuously draws attention to himself with his big and reckless mouth. and "truth: social activity. and his supporters now make threats against the law agencies........... in over aggressive reaction to a legal process.

That is the kind of control Tyrants have over their followers.

What is so concerning is the amount of EMOTIONAL reaction to all this............which is exactly what Trump wants.

He is the proverbial sh** disturber. His pathology thrives on Chaos. where he is the focus.


He never was presidential material..........but his simplistic language seems to appeal to the folks that have bought into his propaganda.

He is a simple........but masterful manipulator........(conman).......and has more justifications for his conduct than
Kellogg has cereals.

Even Nixon's avid supporters were wiling to look at the evidence establish...........while the Trump cult doesn't believe anything any authority says
Yet conspirator theories run amok....... and are believed....without any critical thinking or analysis..and if trump said it.......it has to be gospel.

and this is how a democracy deteriorates. and sadly.......this country is no longer the world influence for democracy, human values, and effective leadership ability. Trumps mafia style leadership contributed to this deterioration. (and current insanity )

What would have h append if Hillary had behaved like Trump did when she lost the election?? ..........can one imagine the Rep reaction??


She is too intelligent and gracious to behave like a buffoon.....and is living a private life now........enjoying her grandchildren.

 

Quote the section of the code that would make that illegal.