THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

This was from an early report, early reports are often estimates only.
They seem to be conscripts. This is why you don't use conscripts. This is why you don't attempt to cleanse ethnic minorities by conscripting them and throwing them in to the meat grinder. They tend to resent it and you're handing them firearms.
I'm not supporting them, I'm mocking your vaunted mobilization to 'mop up' the Ukrainians. Remember when you said that in March?
Civilian attacks vs your conscripts not playing well with each other on base.

 

In another thread you claimed it was a lie that your vaunted chinese allies had not recognized your claim by referenda.
Now you say you don't mind that no one supports your silly claims.
Which is it?

 

You write some nonsense.
For example, the Chinese recognize the new borders of Russia, the Russians recognize the new borders of China. What do you think is wrong with this? This is a natural process.
Europe recognizes Russia's new borders in exchange for gas supplies. Of course, they can freeze to death (in this case, the borders of Russia will still increase due to depopulated lands), but still I think they will most likely recognize the inevitable fact.
When enterprises close in the EU, and people are unemployed and poor, the question is whether the current government will recognize everything that the Russians need, or the Europeans will hang their governments on yardarms, and recognize the new governments in European countries.
The US also recognizes Russia's new borders, even though otherwise Washington will look like an idiot.

 

1 min ago
Military jet crashes into residential area in Russia, state media reports
From CNN's Katharina Krebs in London

A Russian SU-34 fighter jet crashed into a residential building in the city of Yeysk on Monday, the Russian state media TASS reported.

It is not clear how many people were in the fighter jet.

According to the testimony TASS received from an eyewitness, the firefighters and ambulances have arrived at the scene.

“Plane crashed in our city. In Yeysk. In the area of a residential building - Kommunisticheskaya, house 20/1. Ambulances and firefighters are coming from all over the city, helicopters are in the air,” said the eyewitness, as quoted by TASS.

The state media reported that another resident of the city specified that this residential building has nine floors. The entire house is on fire, according to the eyewitnesses.​

Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-17-22/index.html

 

You don't have to make an excuse.

 

What's happening right now.

 

The chinese have not ratified your referenda.

Europe hasn't recognized it either.

The US hasn't recognized it either.

 

And they don't care. After the US sabotaged the imminent peace deal in April; the pipelines; the bridge, you get what you get.

 

What we're going to get is Ukrainian victory.

 

Typical Nazi behavior by Russians. Obey Fuhrer Putin or die! Is that what trolls are told to do, post Putin Propaganda or die?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-death-yuriy-kerpatenko-latest-world-news-ont

 

Ah, the ol' 'Fascists' again. Some of them are being killed as we speak with Iranian drones (you know, Iran, the country shooting peopl in the streets as we speak) being sent by Russia (you know, the security-military dictatorship place) and who are indiscriminately slaughtering people. I take every accusation Russia and its Useful Idiots as confessions of their behavior.

 

why doesn't MSM cover this? I smell BS.

 

This just happened. The number of innocent civilians being slaughtered by Russian Nazi's has reached a point of extermination. Obey Putin or die.

 

One Week In Bakhmut, Where Russia Is Trying To Break Ukrainian Defenses

 

AHAHA, yep, sure thing. Just propaganda bullshit.

 

MSM has covered it.


Ukrainian conductor Yurii Kerpatenko killed by ... - Euronews
https://www.euronews.com › culture › 2022/10/17 › uk...

5 hours ago — A Ukrainian musician has been killed by Russian troops for refusing to take part in a concert in the occupied region of Kherson.


Ukrainian Orchestra Conductor Murdered By Russian Troops ...
https://www.vanityfair.com › Style › ukraine

1 day ago — Yuriy Kerpatenko, a Ukrainian orchestra conductor, was shot and killed in his home by Russian soldiers, according to the Facebook account of ...


Ukrainian Conductor Yuriy Kerpatenko Killed by Russian ...
https://www.playbill.com › article › ukrainian-conducto...

4 hours ago — Ukrainian conductor Yuriy Kerpatenko was killed by Russian soldiers after refusing to participate in a planned concert in Russian-occupied ...


Ukrainian conductor is shot dead by Russian troops in ...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-11323075

8 hours ago — Acclaimed novelist Andrey Kurkov who wrote Death and the Penguin said: 'Now the name of Yuriy Kerpatenko will be added to the list of murdered ...


An orchestra conductor has been killed after refusing to ...
https://www.nytimes.com › World › Europe

2 days ago — KYIV, Ukraine — The head conductor of Kherson's top theater was killed in his home by Russian forces, according to the Ukrainian Ministry of ...


Russian troops kill orchestra conductor for refusing to join ...
https://thehill.com › policy › international › 3691689-r...

15 hours ago — Russian troops kill orchestra conductor for refusing to join concert in Kherson, Ukraine says ... Russian troops shot and killed an orchestra ...


Ukrainian conductor Yurii Kerpatenko killed ... - Yahoo News UK
https://uk.news.yahoo.com › ukrainian-conductor-yurii...

5 hours ago — A Ukrainian musician has been killed by Russian troops for refusing to take part in a concert in the occupied region of Kherson.

 

Well there you go. They follow the same script. I wonder what the actual real story is. MSM is renowned for leaving a lot of crucial facts out of the narratives

 

What these two guys say is in agreement with the OP.

EVERYTHING changes in 3 weeks as Putin amasses biggest force yet
https://www.brighteon.com/ac8db7e1-d638-4d1f-b178-e9be52d93c30

Harley Schlanger, 10.12.22, Wednesday, Ship of Fools Sails Blissfully into Nuclear World War III
https://www.brighteon.com/431a6f7d-e5b3-44e1-a994-4b83f1aa21f0


Unless we're lucky enough to be able to talk to people from that part of the world, all we have are the mainstream media and the alternative media. The mainstream media* usually give an upside-down version of reality when they report on situations such as this. The alternative media are second-hand info too. It's not easy to figure out what's really going on. I think the two videos above make more sense than anything else I've seen.

This site seems to be pretty objective.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/

I live abroad and I've had long discussions with people from some of the countries which that site covers. The info in the articles has always been consistent with what the people told me. I recommend that site to any serious truth-seekers.


“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”

― Malcolm X


*
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798

 

You asked; you were answered.

 

Shouldn't you be firehosing something, or has that been retired?

 

^ Thinks the Apollo missions were faked.

 

It's a conspiracy-theory site.

 

Wikipedia, hmm.

Wikipedia: Fake News & Propaganda – A Tool of the Deep State?

 

And what is it that we "get"? Is it the Russkies getting the **** beaten out of them by a nation a quarter of their size with none of their storied facility at war?


We used to think the Russians were capable of invading all of Europe at once, with more tanks than God tearing through the Fulda Gap.
Now we know they were never capable of that, and in fact are presently incapable of even steam rolling a small 3rd string nation.
I mean you're left with kamakaze attacks on basic civilian housing.
Honestly man, HAMAS has a more indepth strategy and chance at victory than you do.

 

Ukrainian Soldiers Unleash Czech 'Vampire' Rocket System On Russian Forces