THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

Thanks for the input Mr Netanyahu

 

Can we stick to the topic please, which is half a million dead Ukrainian soldiers being mopped up after trying to attack Russians.

 

Russia has been unable to beat Ukraine. It represents no threat to NATO. Its a paper tiger. What the hell are we spending billions on? Waste of US time and energy.

 

They will rearm and try again. Fact.

 

Pssst .. yeah .. you .. over here .. didn't you hear ? Ukraine is lost .. Russia has taken large amounts of territory .. and Ukraine is not getting it back .. Their army is decimated .. pressing women and old men into service who don't want to fight .. ave age on the field now 45 .. untrained and running out of ammo .. how freezing and hungry as the cold winter sets in .. looking for the first opportunity to surrender.

Agree that Russia presents no threat to Nato .. and in fact it would be best if Russia were on our side in the real battle .. the real war .. the economic war .. against China.

 

Russia has lost 500k as well. I am still surprised that small country like Ukraine has been able to battle the supposed great Russian military to a stalemate. Russia has no chance against any other country now. Even if Russia gets to keep Donbas, they lose economically both internally and internationally as well as getting 3 new NATO neighbors. Russia really loses regardless of the outcome. Years from now, Putin will be regarded as the biggest dumbass of the 21st century. There won't be any statues of Putin.

 

One would hardly call mopping up a stalemate but have at it.

 

Ummm…if Russian prison conscripts can wipe the floor against western trained and armed Ukrainian soldiers at a rate of 5-1 then I have no idea why you think nato isnt a toothless paper tiger.

if I were you, I’d be soiling my britches right about now.

…or, do you really not even buy the crap your selling?

 

Russia seems to be really helpless in the military power arena.

 

Russia represents no threat to NATO unless NATO threatens Russia.

These Cold War chest beaters ought to check NATO stockpiles. The ukie Banderites have blown through just about all of the allowable NATO ammo. NATO, with its armies full of wokeness and blue hairs, couldn't beat itself out of a paper bag right now.

When all the sausage is finally ground, I suspect things will get really quiet around here. Only fools believe this is a stalemate. Wars aren't won by taking real estate, they're won by killing off the resistance.

And for the ukie supporters, happy Nazi day in ukraine. Jan 1 is the day of Bandera, a national holiday.

 

Russian ground forces never got into Kyiv. They were stopped cold. They STILL aren't in the city.

 

What can one say about folks who claim there is no propaganda in the western media/ political pundits ? ... Not paying attention ?
What can one say about these same folks .. when shown the propaganda first hand .. continue to claim there is no Propaganda in the West. For some things there is no cure .. and the brainwashing via the sophisticated State Sponsored Propaganda Machine and Ministry of Truth is one of these illnesses.

 

Very True - Russia sent in a small contingent against 250,000 Strong Army that was well trained and well armed -- and not only were they stopped cold but pushed back .. upon which they built a defensive lines - occupying much the Ethnic Russian part of Ukraine behind the Dneiper.

but that in the first months of the war .. Since then Ukraine has blown through all of that initial army trying to breach the Russian defenses .. reconstituted this army a number of times .. each time getting smaller in number and weaker in strength .. human waves thrown into a meat grinder and turned into Ukrainian Sausage.

Ukraine was not able to take any territory beyond the defensive line in near 2 years .. a casualty ratio 5 to 10 times that of Russia due to overwhelming number of weapons and amount of ammo .. being the defender rather than the offender.

Now Ukraine has run out of human capital .. average age on the front line is 45 .. pressing women and old men into service .. people who are ill trained and don't want to be there.. .. and who can blame them .. running low on ammo, hungry and cold on the front line .. and now running out of friends .. Israel sapping all the attention away.. another Biden JV Team .. abandoned -- and why would be surprised by that with the long history of leaving our teams behind for the slaughter.

 

Wow .. how bad then is US/Nato - who's proxy JV-Team just got the snot beat out of them by Russia .. producing artillery (in an artillery war) at 5 times the rate of US-Nato combined -- huge weaknesses in US Military Power exposed .. you seem to have things upside down friend ?!

 

Who said I think such a thing .. better check the "Crap your selling" friend.. you words .. not mind