It Seems Russia Won’t Require a Winter Offensive to Win the War

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  1. bigfella

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    Pretty sure he is Russian living in Russia. There are a couple here....all of whom seem to have avoided military service. There are other Putin worshippers who are American or European and at least one who claims to be Australian.
     
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    I wonder where you were with your principles of love for a person, when the Ukrainian fascists bombed and destroyed civilians in the DPR and LPR for eight (!) Years (!)?
     
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    Sorry, I'm not familiar with the events you're ranting about. What are DPR and LPR? What years?

    This is a debate forum. Rudeness such as you've displayed in ascribing another's emotions or lack thereof will get you nothing but snark in return. Also, if you're going to make angry, emotional claims, it's best to back them up with proof, such as links to your sources. At this point, you have zero credibility, and you sound like a Russian propagandist.
     
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    That would be good. I think that dragging out the conflict is very beneficial for the Russians. In every way. Why would Russians feed this iodine-deficient Ukrainian herd? And why would they rebuild what was destroyed?
    However, this is geopolitics. And we don't know all the information.
     
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    Ahahaha .... You write a comment with reasoning, but you do not know about the main events. This is amazing. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    ""Putin ok with the death of so many of his soldiers"" Where did you get that idea from?
     
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    Win the battle, win the war, then lose your minds with the endless assault of misinformation and drivel... It seems truth itself is the great evil of today, and must be destroyed.
     
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    Dumbest post ever

    Protracted war is never good for any nation ever.

    Wars are expensive and costly and risky not just for those on the battlefield, The longer a war lasts the more the people at home grow to oppose it. This threatens the government. They lose money and have none coming in to replace it.

    You are out of touch with reality. The Russians have already lost. Even if Ukraine ultimately surrenders. Putin has done massive damage to russia and his own government
     
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    Ahahaha.... Russia's external debt decreased by 25%, budget revenues in Russia increased by 10%. The standard of living of Russians has risen.
    Don't read Western media - it's bad for the brain. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    the DPR and the LPR have not existed for 8 years. They only came into being after the Russians sent troops into that part of the Ukraine about a year ago. There was unrest there because the Russians were arming and encourageing dissidents in those border areas who wished they were part of Russia and Ukraine was forced to respond.
     
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    Don't post random stats which you made up out of thin air

    the fact still remains you are wrong and have been consistently wrong for months

    The fact is this war is ruinous for Putin at this point he has to spend more time fighting to stay alive and stop internal coups because his protected war is costing him everything

    your idiotic claim that it is a good thing is historically and epically wrong

    That is also a fact
     
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    And you respond to a polite question with arrogant snark. Not amazing, just typical. Likely due to the fact that those regions didn't even exist until Putin invaded and "annexed" them. Years, my ass. More like a few months.

    You are making up nonsense to justify Russia's attack on a neighboring sovereign nation. Do you really expect your extreme views, based solely on Putin's propaganda to his own people, will gain you any traction here?

    :bored:
     
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    That's some really extreme hatred.

    I guess it's true that when your opponent has the higher moral ground and is beating you, the only course left to you is to trash the victim of your unreasonable attack. Good job on that bit of pure ugliness. :applause:
     
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    Don't write nonsense. There was a coup d'état in Ukraine. Some regions (DPR, LPR, Crimea) did not recognize the coup d'état.
    The usurpers unleashed a war with these regions and bombed, killing civilians, these regions for eight years.
    By the way, did you resent when Ukrainian fascists killed civilians in the DPR and LPR? Or did you not care?
     
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    Ahahaha .... Go to any adequate economic site. And look at the statistics of the Russian economy.
    Have you seen gas prices? Have you seen the prices of all natural resources? Have you seen the ruble-euro, ruble-dollar exchange rate?
    The budget surplus in Russia is huge. Incomes to Russia go like a tsunami.
    Once again - do not read the Western media. It's bad for the brain.
     
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    I'm wondering, do you know that in Ukraine in 2014 there was a coup d'état and the Nazis seized power?
    Some regions did not recognize the usurpers. The usurpers bombed these regions for eight years. Killed civilians. For example, in Donetsk (DPR) there is an alley where many (hundreds, if not thousands) of children killed by Ukrainians are buried ....
    I'm wondering, have you expressed dissatisfaction with the fact of the murder of Russian children in the DPR at least once in eight years?
     
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    ~ Too bad Russia did not use that huge surplus to modernize their military and weapons. Maybe they know better ...
    Apparently Russia media is bad for the brain too ... :wierdface:
     
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    Ahahaha.... And this time you don't have real information, but you are trying to make yourself a moralist.
    The iodine-deficient Ukrainian rabble is a scientific fact.
    Ukrainians live in a region with severe iodine deficiency. It is a fact.
    Many generations of Ukrainians living in this territory are aggressive lunatics. And so they are for many generations.
    Study the issue and then write a comment in defense of the Ukrainians.
    And then, only if you publicly (at least in the comments) opposed the war in Iraq, Syria, Libya .... If you opposed the American bombing of Yugoslavia.
    If you did not speak out against the war, for example, in Afghanistan, then you have no moral right to speak out against the Russians. And all your hypocritical moral urges look ridiculous.
     
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    They use. This is evidenced by the almost daily output of nuclear icebreakers, submarines, surface warships...and missiles. For example, the new Sarmat or hypersonic missiles.
    Russian submarines with Poseidon torpedoes scurry about the American coast, there are magnificent Russian military bases in the Arctic ... But the biggest advantage of the Russians is Biden in the White House.
    The Russians are fine. Unlike US citizens. Because the American authorities are giving away tens of billions of American taxpayer dollars to Ukrainian fascists, instead of funding American industry and helping the impoverished American people.
     
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    I thought that they were done winning months ago and it was just the mop up.... Whatever happened to that?
     
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    There was no so called "coup d’état" in Kyiv in 2014. The spontaneous onset of the Euromaidan protests was not provoked externally, rather, it was a reaction from several segments of the Ukrainian population to former President Yanukovych’s sudden departure from the promised Association Agreement with the European Union in November 2013, after pressure from Russia. Russia then used this as a pretext to grab the Crimea from Ukraine.
    I am resentful of all of the Ukranian civilians who are now being killed by Russian missiles.
    The DPR and LPR did not exist until Russia invaded the Ukraine and set them up.
    Russia has a history of meddling in the affairs of Ukraine. Ukraine has not meddled with the internal affairs of the Russian Republic.
     
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    You can uses all types of euphemisms and excuses. But fact is. There was militant uprising that siezed governmental control. By definition, that's a coup.

    And Ukraine doesn't meddlle with Russia because they have no power to.
     
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    Once again you cite nothing, you only spew made up stats

    None of the economic claims even address the fact that trhey are bleeding money in Ukraine and making nothing to replace it.

    Stanndard of living? Yes it incrrased in WWII as well but the war still cost more than the money which was generates

    You are full of **** and the facts prove it
     
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    Ahahaha .... Do you understand that you write complete nonsense?
    If the BLM or Trump supporters take over the White House by force of arms, will you also say that these were spontaneous protests? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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