Josh Hawley wants to ban TikTok nationwide. Missouri senator will introduce legislation

If the right bans Tik Tok, this will be an even bigger motivator to the younger left to get out and vote than even the abortion issue was. Most of the content(if you can even call it that) on Tik Tok is just mind numbingly stupid, but the kids love it. Want another Biden term in 2024? Support Mr. Hawley's efforts.

 

So many important issues out there and THIS is what Hawley focuses on?

 

Welcome to the current GOP

 

Ban, ban, ban... That's all the self-professed freedom lovers of the Trump party can think about. Thanks, Mr. DeSanctimonious.

 

LOL!!

Josh appears to be a good runner!

 

Doubt kids will care. Before TikTok there was Vines there will be plenty after TikTok

 

Aren't you all glad that your elected officials who were tasked with improving and building upon their respective states and the country thought that an annoying social media app was a serious priority?

 

They'd get over it but not in the short term. Not by 2024. This wouldn't be a case where the service goes out of business or something. This would be an outrage to a generation who has grown up on outrage. This would be the GOP taking it away from them, and there's no current precedent of something similar so it would be NEW in addition to outraging.

If this passes, this is how the GOP sabotages themselves in 2024.

And it's also worth noting that right-wingers like Tik Tok too. The machine shop I worked at before my current job in my rural area of PA is full of nothing but Republicans. There wasn't a single Democrat there. And they all love Tik Tok. Would they vote for a Democrat over it? Maybe, but doubtful. But some will, especially those who aren't political but feel the pinch from this one.

 

TikTok is being banned in many organizations and local govts now. It is being used to passively glom personal data from it's users, that much is true, and the Chinese govt has engaged in such in the past.

IMHO, this is not a deal breaker for his reelection. He will have support for this.

 

The kids don't care about that. I actually agree with the concerns you've raised but it won't matter. The younger generations put their entire lives online already anyway, they're not really going to be concerned that someone from China might know what they ate for lunch and where they ate it. They will react to a favorite app being taken away from them.

 

I agree 100% that many younger people don't care and even some adults. It can also be used to track individuals.

An FYI, I had a Google pixel 3a xl phone. Noticed it would auto enable my wi-fi, Bluetooth and other features. I brought this up to Verizon and they dismissed it and the exec reps were unprofessional towards me on it. I then went about for almost a yr documenting it, filed complaints with FCC and state AG. State transferred complaint to another state and the FCC has sat on their hands. Got Verizon to apologize to the FCC about me, but they do not acknowledge their role.

There is more of this going on I am sure.

 

I don't think banning tick tock will be as much of a blow to the Republicans as lying to them about forgiving 10,000 of their student loans is.

I mean having to start a new profile on a new social media platform it's one thing but saying you know that $10,000 we promised you yeah **** you.

 

This is ridiculous. I totally support the banning of TikTok on government devices and private companies are definitely allowed to allowed to ban them on corporate devices but trying to ban a social media app on people's personal devices is crazy.

 

They never had the $10,000 in their pocket. Nothing actually changed for them. Now if their loans had been forgiven and then reinstated, that would be a similar situation because then they are actually losing something they had. And they aren't going to blame Biden for that anyway. They'll see he tried. From their perspective, Biden didn't cancel the forgiveness, other people wouldn't let him do it. They're not going to bother understanding the nuances of why the forgiveness isn't happening.

Removing an app that is part of their lives leaves a definite noticeable hole. They'll feel that much more viscerally. This app is hugely popular with the younger crowd.

 

The irony is that if you own a smartphone, you are being tracked, cataloged, and suspectible to hacking. I can understand banning apps such as TikTok, Truth Social, and any other social media app, including YT, rom government devices, but nationwide won't work. TikTok would simply spin off the company to a US or Canadian affiliate and circumvent it that way, among other things.

 

yeah the fighting administration knowingly and purposefully lied to them about forgiving $10,000 on their student loans.

This won't make them Republican if they were Democrats to begin with it was just make them apathetic.

yeah you're kind of fussing about a technicality and in my eyes crossed about six words into it so I didn't read the rest of this as I don't care about the technicality as it has nothing to do with the subject.

Biden still clearly lied and knowingly lied.

that many tech Giants are absolutely desperate to fill. I remember when vines went down.

until something fills the void.

I would suggest friendship and if that were to happen then they would be thinking whoever broke the spell. But I don't think we should let Chinese operative spy on us because we don't want to inconvenience children for a few days.

 

Do you really think truth social is in the same caliber as tiktok?

I'm petting the majority of people lunch with social are over 60 years old.

 

The problem with the Josh Howley legislation is that it ignores all the other possibilities that it claims to prevent. At the same time, it shows the hypocrisy of the GOP about freedom of speech. It is basically claiming that as long as the GOP agrees with that speech, it is okay. If not, it should be banned. And young people as well as other age groups, see this bill for what it truly is, banning free speech.

 

Easy there!!!! Have you seen how your country wants to control social media and the internet All I want to know is what's the link to the Australian prime minister of propaganda.. I have a few complaints to register

The Australian govt can now edit social media posts - Tech Wire Asia

Australia’s media regulator to get new powers to crack down on online misinformation | Australian media | The Guardian

 

We're not talking about anybody's free speech I think you're trying to distract from the topic we're talking about a foreign caliphate collecting data.

All the crazy little tick tock people will just move somewhere else like they did when they moved from vines.

 

The usual suspects jump partisan.

Tiktok represents a national security threat, that much has already been proven.

The amount of data that is capable of being collected is terrifying. Let a US company or start up take its place.

 

See below. It doesn't matter what actually happened, it only matters what they perceive happened.

I'm not fussing about a technicality, I'm not arguing for or against the forgiveness. I'm telling you what the young adults who have their Tik Tok banned are going to think and why what you said isn't going to make a difference. They aren't going to delve deep into it like you have. They'll remember Biden promised it, and they'll remember other people stopped him from doing it.

Vines went down. It wasn't taken from them by a political party. And I honestly can't stand Tik Tok so I don't care if it gets shut down or not. It's as annoying as Twitter now. But shutting down one app is hardly going to stop data theft. They still have the phone and all the other apps that are all storing your data too. If the Chinese can't get it from an app owned by a Chinese company, they'll get it somewhere else. As far as Tik Tok on government devices goes, there shouldn't be any social media apps on government devices, period. Unless you're the one that runs the social media account for that particular agency, etc.[/QUOTE]

 

yeah what's perceived to have happened was the government lied to people. In the ultimate insult injury was Nancy pelosi coming out and saying yeah we knew he lied to you.

you carried on for a paragraph about how they really didn't get the money so technically they weren't losing anything.

That doesn't mean that these people didn't take that as the government lying to them.

we're still talking about predominantly teenagers here. They're probably going to get over tick tock and being replaced pretty quickly. It doesn't really matter how it comes about just what replaces it.

And if it was anybody but the Republicans as they don't have any influence over big tech, I would think that it was a big tech conglomerate trying to eliminate competitors.

I remember all the fuss and habalu about Twitter and nobody cares now. The longevity of a memory of a cultural flash in the pan is normally not very long.

 

You mean US companies like Youtube, Vimeo, Facebook, Dailymotion etc... TikTok is far from the only video sharing app out there.

I can't believe we have all of these big government people that want the government to step in and control our lives because they think we are not capable of choosing our own social media.