Ex-Transgender Teenager Sues Kaiser Permanente over Double Mastectomy

Would you turn a blind eye to your neighbors abusing their kids? Or would you have something to say about it?

 

Came from right here. Some people are willing to accept blatant human rights violations to defend their position on this issue.

This is the logical fallacy they have inherited from their position, which paints them into a corner.

 

Circumcision is the standard go-to the left uses as justification for life altering “care”. It’s a joke and not comparable at all. They know it and they still go there because they can NOT argue their point logically. It’s all emotion and excuses.

They’ll argue it’s wrong to wait until 18, as if there is any evidence at all the surgery helps at all. Jazz Jennings had all the surgery and “care” and she/he is certainly no better off now. She admitted she still doesn’t know who she is. Uuuuum duh!!! Overweight, confused, questioning her decisions, breaking down, depressed, ect. Way to go docs and the parent using her as a paycheck.

 

This is the crux of the issue. Society supports parents raising their children as they see fit, but they also recognize that a child has rights, and the courts/laws must be enacted to benefit the child. We see this regarding child care in divorce, abuse, neglect, etc.

Some people view removing the breasts of a child with body dysmorphia as abuse. Clinically speaking, there isn't much evidence to support this since we haven't been doing this very long. Long-term effects haven't been properly studied. But, we know that the vast majority of kids who have gender dysmorphia grow out of it in their teenage years.

 

Yes exactly. I will not tell others how to live their lives. That is the price of freedom, just as I will not tolerate others trying to explain to me about their version of right and wrong.

 

You don't have the freedom to abuse a child and trample on their human rights. Sorry. That's not freedom. That's tyranny.

 

You will need to define abuse. We all have different views on it.

 

And heeeeeere we go with the games. Thank you for letting me know you will be a waste of time and shouldn't be taken seriously. Have a good day.

 

Removing a child's clitoris is "freedom."


Told ya so....

 

Brutally exposed. Great work!

 

So no — you cannot direct quote me of saying anything you indicated

Excused. As typical

 

I am not abusing anyone, and I certainly don't go sticking my nose into other people's business. You think you have the moral capital to tell others what is right and wrong.

 

A simple question you can't answer, can you at least provide scenarios that you think are abuse.

 

So you think because a little boy plays with a Barbie doll that you should put a dress on him?

 

How would you like us to break it down for you?

Sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, neglect?

 

Start off with emotional abuse.

All of that is subjective, some people have a stronger constitution than others, hence what some people think emotional abuse is nothing to others. Years ago corporal punishment was the norm.

 

Where did you read that? No one forced anyone to do anything.

 

I understand that. The problem is that some people in this thread claim that a hospital must perform the procedure, even if a doctor refuses. The end result of the logic is:

1. A hospital is not required to do anything for elective procedures.
2. A hospital cannot force an unwilling doctor to perform elective surgery against their judgement.

 

The family jumped through hoops for this elective surgery the doctor recommended against. It wasn't prescribed, they voluntary surpassed all the safe guards that should have prevented this.
What makes you think the state would have been able to stop them?

 

If this was prescribed by a therapist, and the doctor recommended it for health reasons why should it not be performed?

In this case it wasn't.

 

Society governs limits to acts and procedures that can be harmful. There are always people who follow fads and underage children should be protected by not making these procedures available till the child is of age to choose for themselves.

 

Removing the emotion, scientifically if the procedure is going to be done, when is the most effective time to have it done?

The accusation is peer pressure is causing them to do it, it's not being done for thereputic or medical reasons right? So imo if they can succumb to peer pressure so easily, I say it's best they neuter themselves before they get pregnant or impregnate someone else. I'd rather that then an abortion, or bring an unwanted child In to the world to be raised by someone who changes their mind about transitioning. They are only gonna push that garbage onto their child as well.

If Lil suzzy is harassing her parents because she wants to fit in via the tiktok transition challenge, who's to say she's not already experimenting with the pregnancy and abortion challenge.

Are we going to have the state raising our kids, or is it possible to just hold the parents responsible for this incident. They should be suing her parents if they have any regrets. It's a violation of our liberty to have the state dictate what you can do to yourself, remember the outrage when the state wouldn't allow the parents to get experimental care to save their child's life? There are plenty of stories where transitioning saved a child's life.

 

What about circumcision.

 

It was easy to do once he tried to act like he doesn't know what abusing kids is.

 

You see, the fact that chopping off body parts is a bad thing, it shouldn't have to be TOLD to anyone. This thread should not even exist because this should have NEVER happened. You are trying to cheapen it by likening it to the equivalency of telling other parents they shouldn't let their kids stay up past 8pm or something like that. We are talking about a girls breasts getting CHOPPED OFF. Don't try to cheapen it with bad and unrelated analogies.
Thank you