Florida sued over bans on gender-affirming care for transgender youth

I knew this day was coming. The brief is so simple and obvious I could have written it myself:

“The transgender medical bans are not narrowly tailored to further a compelling government interest, substantially related to any important governmental interest, or even rationally related to a governmental interest. Accordingly, the transgender medical bans violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment,”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/23/politics/florida-transgender-medical-ban-lawsuit

In my opinion, these bans don't do what they purport to do i.e. "care" for transgender youth. They are just targeting trans people because they don't want them to exist. It is a punishing animus on a politically disfavored minority group. I don't trust the current SCOTUS to respect precedent but if they do (or if the make-up of the court has changed once this reaches them) I predict all of these bans will be struck down.

Which minority will they go after next? Kinda running out of targets it seems.

 

Protecting children from irreversible harm is reasonable. They do not have the ability to process information in a way that takes long term consequences into account. If an adult wants unnecessary cosmetic surgery and can afford it, I don't see any issue.

 

What important and compelling interest does the government have in teaching gender junk and crt in schools?

 

How do you define unnecessary cosmetic surgery?

What if a child had a huge birthmark on their face that could be corrected with cosmetic surgery? If the parents and kid both wanted that procedure, even though the birthmark wasn't causing them any physical problems, would you want to make it illegal?

 

Not quite the same as hacking off boobs or penises. I doubt anyone would object to the situation you're talking about.

 

So it's ok for cosmetic surgery to be used to improve the mental health of a child when the child, their parents, and their doctor all agree it is the correct decision?

 

Don't try to pull the false equivalency falacy on me.

 

Surgery is one thing but often the care is just councelling or puberty blockers (which are reversible) with the express purpose of giving the patient time to decide.

 

Surgery is nearly always the last step once the patient becomes an adult. Many of these bans affect the care steps taken before that point.

 

The only reason they aren't the same is that you don't like one of them.

 

I don't think anybody actually teaches CRT in schools but that's also a bit off topic to the thread.

 

Isn't America great? Anyone can sue anyone they want on any given day. It doesn't mean they will win.

Nobody is going after minorities. They are protecting children from overzealous adults with agendas, who think children should have life-altering medical procedures, simply because they show gender-confusion.

 

How would you know what he likes?

 

I’m trying to point out the government doesn’t have an important or compelling interest in a lot of things but they mandate it anyway. What important or compelling interest does the government have in banning people from collecting rainwater that falls on their property? That might weird, but it’s real.

 

Precisely why the FL. lawsuit will fail. Children need to be protected. They don't have the emotional maturity to be making life-altering decisions they may later regret. The state should be compelled to protect their interests.

 

That the point of the case, to see if the law withstands scrutiny. Could be applied to other cases but a plaintiff needs to file suit.

 

Gender affirming care doesn't need to be life altering.

 

You cannot make a case that puberty blockers do not have long term effects. What you call "counselling" consists of telling children they were born defective and require drugs and surgery to "fix".

Are you okay with the counselling known as "conversion therapy"?

 

I have to seriously question the sanity and motives of any parent who would rush their kids into this. In the story one kid is only ten years old, that kid just barely knows how to speak and couldn’t possibly know the difference between a boy and a girl. Plus it probably takes years of therapy to find out if a kid truly believes s/he is in the wrong body which would mean this kid thought that at the age of seven or eight and the parents insanely took the kid seriously.

Where are all these trannies coming from? Right now I believe for some it’s fashionable to say you’re in the wrong body, it gets them attention, the parents get to virtue signal how progressive they are and the medical industry makes big bucks.

Any sane and responsible parent would get the kid the kind of therapy to realize who he or she really is, and they certainly wouldn’t rush into it, they would probably wait as long as possible to see if the kid grows out of it.

 

And that should be decided by govt and not people and their doctors?

 

The case will be brought to court on its own merits. Doctors and medical experts will testify and a judgement will be drawn.

 

What about the child?

 

Are you okay with the counselling known as "conversion therapy"?

 

And their parents don’t either?

 

That’s a more difficult conversation. Let’s assume parents and children are on the same page.