Explain the Focus on AR-15s and Mass Shootings

Guns don't kill people, people kill people! I blame crime and criminals!

 

Speaking of heller
(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose

 

You're right, AND WE DON'T

 

LOL - I was never promoting that as a solution.

In fact, I suggested others who are concerned about child slaughter in America to NOT use that idea.

You failed to even recognized that I was there WAY BEFORE you have been. In fact, you STILL belly ache about the AR.

 

Then again, when in Rome, as they say

Explain the Focus on AR-15s and Mass Shootings

 

You entirely missed the point.

Gun restrictions are part of America. They are NOT off the table.

 

Nope, I did not I have never had, nor brandished a weapon, that was not permitted by law!

 

That is so blindingly silly, and so thoroughly debunked that it says a lot about YOU and nothing about gun slaughter in America.

 

Please go reread the posts you are attempting to respond to.

 

LOL -

You keep forgetting that I don't back that focus.

The problem you are having is that you can't retain an idea for more than a couple minutes. From a health perspective, that is a warning sign.

 

So you contend that firearm controls the killer?

 

Why. I replied to a statement?

 

I was simply refreshing the OP topic is all

 

what we have here is a failure to communicate. let's get real for a moment if you'll allow it. if the number one cause of childhood deaths is listed as motor vehicles, it isn't really cars that are to blame. the real cause is the failure of drivers to act in a responsible manner. the problem here is really that you are confusing "cause" and "means". unless these vehicles and diseases have gained sentience while i wasn't looking, they have caused nothing. there is a reason behind these deaths beyond your simplistic meanderings. the same is true of firearms.

until you and your ilk quit seeking these simple-minded, superficial answers, the deaths will continue. as long as you are satisfied with what looks good in the headlines, people will die for no particular reason. unless you are willing to admit that this is an unforeseen consequence of decades of progressive social engineering, the slaughter will go on and on and on.

 

Then why do leftists do exactly what I described?

Looking at data doesn't matter if all you're going to do is moan and complain until your media over Lord tell you to moan about something else.

 

Your comments on autos dodges the FACT that for decades we've worked on reducing auto deaths through a comprehensive approach - engineering (even knobs and steering wheels), crash requirements, safety features (like belts and bags), road improvements (medians, rails, signage, surfaces, speed limits, etc.), driver licensing, policing of behavior, etc, etc. We instituted the NTSB to carefully gather stats and determine weak points and opportunities for improvement.

This level of work on automobile safety has made a major and continuing difference for decades, as shown by data I've cited above.


For guns, we have done SQUAT by any rational comparison. We have LITERALLY followed the Republican demand that we do absolutely NOTHING.

And, let me set you straight. I have NOT argued for ANY single solution OR for limits on any specific gun type.

Don't hand me accusations that clearly identify you as one who has NO ability to maintain a rational conversation on this issue.

 

You search America to find people who say something that you then charge those you HATE from ever saying in any context. In fact, you then accuse people on this board of saying that, when they have NEVER said that.

What YOU have consistently done is to argue that the death rate due to guns among children is not worth addressing. And, as cited on this thread, that IS the Republican position.

Stick with that.

If you decide you don't like the spike we're seeing in gun death among children, lets talk.

Who knows what we'll come up with.

 

Take out the gangbangers and what do the numbers look like? Ah, but you don't want to do that, now do you??

 

And for decades, gun deaths declined precipitously. How 'bout them apples?

 

The spike you're seeing in deaths among children is just a fancy rewarding of a statistic so what they did to make that happen was they said anybody between the ages of one and 19 our children which is false people that are 18 and 19 years old they're not children they're adults. <Mod Edit>

Look at the rate of death in people below the age of 16 and I bet it won't be that Stark.

Remember there are lies there are damn lies and then there are statistics.

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Using your own older posts to 'prove' a point does not compute logically. All SCOTUS did was (FINALLY!!) put teeth into the 'shall not be infringed' part of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. That's not legislating, that's interpreting, which is their primary function and reason for existence. And, it's simple common sense.

 

Good post!

 

Facts cannot be racist. They simply are. 2+2=4. The sun rises in the east, and sets in the west. The Declaration of Independence was written on July 4, 1776. pi=3.14159. Blacks commit a much larger number of murders per capita than any other race in the United States.

These are simply truths. The way things are, whether or not we like them is completely irrelevant. Some are changeable, some are immutable. In any case, 'racist' is not a proper word to describe a fact, despite how tempting it must feel to do so.

 

I cited what's happening with children dead due to firearms since about 2000.

The only precipitous change is the upward surge of the last few years.

That might be helpful, as maybe we can identify what changed, and fix that!!

 

Gun deaths are disproportionately among the poor.

Our policies have led to a society blacks with being disproportionately among the poor.

Also, there are other factors involved.

So, your accusation of blacks IS racist. It is your analysis, including comparisons of populations.

This is the correlation vs. causation fallacy used to promote bigotry.