11 days until your SS checks might be interrupted

Then you must not be a professional politician.

 

So true.

 

It is not that Biden will instruct Yellen to do this. It is a fact that it will happen. What you don't understand about the debt limit will affect all spending, both discretionary and nondiscretionary. The priortity will be "essential services" and under the law, that means anything and everything that is geared toward national defense. That does not include entitlement programs or pay for federal employees who are not part of essential services, which is 80% of the Federal government.

From the article, it says, "Unlike a government shutdown, where Social Security and Medicare benefits continue to flow, that may not be the case with a default." It further explains "However, the Social Security Administration may delay payments to ensure it has enough cash on hand." Are you willing to take that risk?

 

What makes you think it will be the progressives? The Freedom Caucus is already proposing more spending on DHS that would go beyond the 1% limit and we have not even negotiated the debt deal yet.

 

Ain’t dependence on government great? They can buy your vote any time they want.

KICK THAT CAN. KICK IT!!!

 

If they want to spend more money on DHS, it's probably to take control of the border. The border is a real problem, whether your party is recognizing it or not. Biden has let 6 million illegals into the country during his presidency. The Texas border towns, New York and Chicago have all reached their limits. There is no more room for non productive migrants with no place to live.

As for DHS throwing more money at is useless as long Alejandro Mayorkas and the Democrats are "controlling" it. Their goal is to let as many migrants in as possible so that they can be fast tracked to citizenship and casting votes for Democrats.

Go ahead, and attack my position. I don't care because nothing the Democrats have to say has any validity on this issue any longer. Biden and the Democrats have acted with complete dishonesty and bad faith.

 

Yes, I read it. For starters, it limits the spending to 2022 levels, but excludes specifically, the DoD. So, a $1.5 Trillion dollar budget for discretionary spending. Of which about $800 billion is the Pentagon and all the DoD expenditures. If you look at the remaining, it is a 22% reduction in all other spendings, which includes the VA, DHS, national parks, and so forth. It also tries to negate the past legislation of Joe Biden in the prior term. That is money already allocated for and spent by the way. And it will do more harm to this country than what you realize.

But the 14th Amendment is not going to come or even be considered. It can't because that means not paying the bills, 97% of which is not Biden's doing at all and 25% of that is Trump's doing. It is also a far worse plan than what the Freedom Caucus is proposing in the bill that was passed.

Unfortunately, there are only two options, raise the debt ceiling through some negotiations, or default. That's it. And right now, McCarthy is not wanting to negotiate. It is either his way or the highway, via the Freedom Caucus.

 

but it goes against that 1% increase, doesn't it. There was no room for maneuvering to deal with any future issues that may arise. Hence the ones who will break it will not be progressives, it will be the Freedom Caucus. Reasoning not matter since the limit on spending was quite specific.

For starters, that is not their goal. Never has been, never will be. That is internet innuendo and gossip talking. But the problem is we have been dealing with this longer than you and I have been alive, combined age that is. It has been that way ever since 1873 when the border patrol was first created.

 

List them and tells us by how much they reduce the debt

 

It's just the sort of head-in-the-sand thinking after WW1 that helped lead to WW2.

We are? Are you disappointed Republicans can't cut Social Security benefits? Do you rightwing radicals have a political death wish?

"Few Americans would be OK with some ways politicians have suggested to shore up the programs: 79 percent say they oppose reducing the size of Social Security benefits and 67 percent are against raising monthly premiums for Medicare. About 65 million older and disabled people access government-sponsored health insurance through Medicare and rely on monthly payments from Social Security.

Instead, a majority — 58 percent — support the idea of increasing taxes on households making over $400,000 yearly to pay for Medicare, a plan proposed by President Joe Biden last month."​

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...cial-security-medicare-cuts-ap-norc-poll-says

 

Here's a very revealing chart showing in detail just how little Repubs care about deficits.

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/09/biden-budget-government-spending-charted

 

Please stop misquoting my messages.

I don't think holding Medicare and Social Security budget increases to rate of inflation makes sense when we have a bulge of Boomer retirees. FYI, the number of Medicare beneficiaries went up by more than one million in 2021.

I'm afraid we may have to get used to budget increase exceeding the inflation rate with our growing population overall and an aging population on top of that.

 

Nope, then again this aint my first DNC dog and pony show either

 

It couldn’t. It’s a deficit spending reduction bill not a debt reduction bill. Reducing deficit spending through legislation does not reduce the debt. It only reduces deficit spending and possibly slows the growth of the debt. A slower growing debt is not a reduced debt.

 

Fake News. There are sufficient funds to cover debt service and ss checks.

 

You realize there will still be cash flowing into the Treasury the whole time right? The money doesn't suddenly dry up on Armageddon day.

 

Nope.

 

As a general rule, debt limit fights are not really worth fighting, so it's not my battle, but if you are so invested in it you could suggest Biden sign the House bill and end this with no default.

 

Not the "Debt ceiling flap" but this thread topic, about it's effect on Social Security checks, is absolutely fake news.

 

Dang! You are horrible at fear mongering

 

You and @Zorro need to work on your fear mongering.

 

I admit, I'm not good at uninformed hysteria. Clearly there are others who are far superior to that.

 

What's more, reduced spending (deficit or otherwise) could even INCREASE the debt. This is why it's so important for those who talk about cutting spending tell us WHAT it is they are cutting by how much and how that impacts (positively or negatively) the debt.

 

Get rid of the Department of Education, HUD, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the DEA, the ATF. Cut all entitlements to able bodied people under the age of 65. Enact 50% employee cuts across the entire federal bureaucracy. This is isn't rocket science. I have no debt and more than three million in the bank on a lifetime of fiscal prudence and sacrifice. If a mouth breathing deplorable right wing dullard like me can balance a budget, the so-called elite can as well.

Lets face it, the only purpose of the Democrat Party is to use my tax dollars to pay off their Red Guard in the bureaucracy, NGOs, and welfare ranks. My tax money will be used to buy Democrat votes and as usual the Republicans won't do a damn thing to stop it. The clown show can't go on forever, the butcher's bill will eventually come due.

 

Absolutely!