Getting back to the abortion issue i.e. Roe overturned..

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  1. Green Man

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    Individuals are identifiable by the unique strand of DNA produced at conception.

    Now I got a question for you Bowerbird, when does a woman's responsibility to her child begin?

    Here in the states it ends at 18 years old.
     
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    With in the first week of the egg and sperm combining is when a new unique human DNA is formed. So, conception.
     
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    Most "differ" because that is what they've been taught to believe through lies. And if you respond to me skip the religious comments. You don't need religion to prove that human life begins at conception. Just science.
     
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    If you need to believe that a microscopic, mindless amalgam of cells is a person, and that the State should impose that belief upon everyone, don't expect most folks to agree with you.

    "Human life" is in every skin cell you shed. It does not make them all people.
     
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    Some states have passed laws in which no abortion is allowed under rape, incest or even threatening the life of the mother. Some states are trying to tell physicians on what to do with certain medical issues. Some states are telling people on who they should listen to by banning social media apps for everyone. Get the gist now?

    I don't think we should have abortion on demand, but only a few Democrats advocated for that. And I don't think state politicians should decide whether to charge someone for homicide because they think the miscarriage was done purposely, which has been proposed in certain conservative states. Even some states want to charge doctors with homicide if they do anthing that will be perceived as abortion, even medically necessary in order to save the life of the mother. Your side is not about freedom either, more so than Democrats.
     
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    Golly, if it's okay to kill a mindless lump of cells then a lot of politicians would be in big trouble... :)
     
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    Awesome post. 100% nailed it
     
  8. Natty Bumpo

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    Out of curiosity, can you name any?
     
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    But the state does impose the punishment, don't they now.

    If a person strikes a pregnant woman causing miscarriage that person can prosecuted for murder- in all fifty states. So you and I are responsible for fetuses we had no part in producing, but one of the two people that produced the kid are not responsible at all.

    And no it's not just a woman problem. Men are responsible for where they plant, and responsible to the mother and the child's well being.
     
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    A microscopic, mindless amalgam of cells is less a person than an acorn is an oak tree. Both might eventually become them.
     
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    Ah, potential.

    Leftists hate the possibility of potential.

    And what of you? Do we need to give everyone an IQ test and if they fail it's a boom and a trip to the unexplored?

    Edit- you compare people to plants, I guess that makes it easier for you to accept murder. If you smash a nest of eagle eggs, you are killing eagles.
     
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    Yes, potential. What is not, but may be some day.

    Are there any Americans who can't grasp the difference?
     
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    When does your potential start Natty Bumpo?

    If you potentially killed a fetus in the past that does not mean it did not happen.
     
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    Because they are not burdened with our regressive, moralistic, champions of authoritarian rule operating under the guise of the opposition party to the Dems.
     
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    Since when is killing individuals not authoratarian?
     
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    The difference being, since you used morality, is firearm shootings and deaths are not really a moral position. It's a legal position.
    Like drinking and driving. Many laws are enacted and enforced to curb the number of drivers who drink. In order to slow or stop unneeded deaths due to a drunk driver.
     
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    Often incorrectly.
    People put other people in boxes as an easy way to degrade them in some fashion.
     
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    Conservatives, by definition, are slow to change.
     
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    That's why it's such a hot topic.
    There are many ways to define beginning of life.

    We have a legal way of defining the end of life, brainwave activity. Which would be a precursor to experiencing of dreams.
     
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    To be fair I’ve seen it done by self professed libs too.
     
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    In the States, in the past, when the woman decided it will become her child.
     
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    Right- the moment she spreads her legs.

    It does not matter if the choice is made unwittingly. It's not like nobody knows what happens when you have intercourse. And that is the issue, because people can be intimate without intercourse. So it isn't about the woman's right to choose. It's about the woman's right to intercourse.

    Meanwhile she is having her orgasm and sacrificing the living human consequences of her actions to some sex god.
     
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    My yes, "Junior is a Precious thing!"

    Except the last time she got pregnant she scrambled Precious up and sucked it out with a Shop Vac.
     
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    What an interesting analogy. The drunk diriving analogy. Like don't drink and drive or you might wreck and be responsible for the consequences. Everybody knows that.

    Exactly like if you screw you might get pregnant and be responsible for the consequences. Good analogy DairyAir.
     
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    LOL, always blame the woman.
    The man was just for show.
     

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