It's not them, it's HIM

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    There is a humorous saying I learned while in the Navy.

    If you can keep calm and collected while everyone else around you is panicking and screaming then you obviously do not understand the f***ing situation.

    It's related to the idea that if a guy dates a lot of women but it always ends with them breaking up then the problem is probably not the women.

    In this case the right would have you believe that all of the legal problems in Trumpland are the work of nefarious forces out to get Trump.

    But it's more than just Trump, it's people that served in the administration, it's the lawyers that worked trying to overturn the 2020 election, it's the fake electors. ALL of these people are in real and serious legal trouble. His lawyers are being sanctioned left and right, many of them getting disbarred for facing disbarment. He, and the people working for him, have been indicted on MULTIPLE felonies and are having problems securing legal council. A supposed BILLIONAIRE is turning to political action committees to pay his legal fees.

    The man who served as his vice President is now running against him for the 2024 nomination.

    To anyone with two working brain cells it's obvious (BEYOND obvious really) the problem is NOT everyone else. The problem is Trump.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am here for the pronoun fight.
     
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    The difference between Biden and Trump

    Department of Justice Investigations..

    Investigate Biden people and those numbers would double what Trump has...
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wild fantasy based on nothing in the real world.
     
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    Why the continuing obsession with Trump?
     
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    Former game show host and former president under multiple indictments and currently running for President.

    yea, he only gets attention because people are obsessed with him.

    If Pat Sajak was facing multiple indictments we'd be talking about it.
     
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    The difference in the investigations is the fruit from a poisonous tree. The very reason it’s being paraded around by the House in a public forum because it’s useless in a legal forum. And as Weiss found threatens even actionable items regarding Hunter.
     
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    Dozens of former Trump Cabinet officials won’t publicly support his 2024 reelection bid

    Dozens of former Cabinet officials under former President Trump’s administration declined to publicly support the former president’s third bid for the White House, NBC News reported.

    NBC News reached out to 44 people who previously served in Trump’s Cabinet during his four years in office to gauge whether they would support the former president during the 2024 presidential election. The outlet reported that most of the people declined to comment or ignored the requests and that only four said publicly they would support Trump for the presidency.

    Trump’s Cabinet saw a higher rate of turnover compared with many of his predecessors, with many new officials rotating in and out of his administration over the four years. The only four former Cabinet members who NBC News reached out to who said they would support Trump are former acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, former chief of staff Mark Meadows, former Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director Russell Vought and former acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ont-publicly-support-his-2024-reelection-bid/

    What a collection of nitwits.
     
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    We already know this but thanks for reminding us.
     
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    I will vote for neither Trump nor Biden in 2024. If those are the choices the two major parties present then I will vote for a third party.
     
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    The 'problem' is Trump not cooperating with our entrenched runaway authoritarian bureaucracy. To quote my old boss- 'Its a feature, not a bug.'

    Here's hoping he learned a lesson the first time around, fires literally everyone and hires from outside the pool of lifelong entrenched bureaucrats who've all made careers out of selling out their country. If I've never heard of anyone in his cabinet, that'll be a good sign.

    I dont have a lot of confidense when it comes to Trump learning things, thats partially why I intend to vote RFK if I can. If I cant, Trump moves to top of the list.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will it? What are the chances anyone with any self respect, integrity, qualifications, or intelligence would work for a traitor who betrayed the American people?
     
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    Most of the Hunter Biden’s crime are before 2017. A simple question, why didn’t Trump’s handpicked 4 AG of USA and hand picked FBI director investigate Biden’s family?
     
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    Well the “Bug” or the careers bureaucrats didn’t go after Bush or Reagan or any other Republican politicians, only Trump and his minions.

    Sound like it’s trump and not everyone else.
     
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    Nice you just left out the entire dc bureaucracy most of whom above the rank GS13 or so have as there is only recommendations an unseemly lust for power.
     
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    I will be doing same.
     
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    Pretty high, given that half the country doesn't share your opinion that he's a traitor.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya, most republicans arent very big fans of most Republicans. Or, didn't used to be. That's improved a bit in recent years. I'm sure you've heard the term RINO.
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    A lot more than half know he broke the law, they know that he attempted to subvert the will of the people and illegally seize power.

    The problem is that a significant part of the half who support Trump support him BECAUSE of that, not in spite of it.
     
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    I'm sorry that you believe in these silly little scams I've been going on since 2015 are legitimate.

    I would say you suggest turning off the TV and thinking for yourself but that might be a big ask.
     
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    Nope…. Based on NO Joe Biden investigations.
     
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    Horrible sayings. Neither takes into account the various situations.

    For example, maybe the guy keeping calm and collected knows the solution? Maybe they're the Captain and has trained themselves not to panic and go around screaming? (you really think the Navy is going to let a person that panics and screams be the captain of a destroyer? Pfft.)

    As for the guy, maybe he's too nice of a guy and the women he dates are looking for a bad boy? Maybe the guy is too poor (according to the women) and keeps ending up with women that are gold diggers?

    There are SOOO many scenarios that make those sayings false and not worth "saying".
     
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  23. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    Here's the problem. I do think for myself and nothing makes a Trump supporter angrier is someone that thinks for themselves.
     
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    to all the MAGA under 40, how will you explain your glorious leader to your grandchildren?
     
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    are you sure? How do you know? Groupthink I think it's evolutionary for humans so you have to fight an instinct.

    It isn't easy to think for yourself so before you just say that like it's just some personal insult that's not how I meant it.
    Most people don't think for themselves, including Trump supporters. We are a tribal or social species. And a lot of this political partisan garbage we engage in is tribalism.
     

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