Chick-fil-A would be required to open on Sundays under new bill

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    LINK: Chick-fil-A would be required to open on Sundays under new bill (msn.com)

    LINK to the Bill: Bill Search and Legislative Information | New York State Assembly (nyassembly.gov)

    Welp, the party of Tolerance once again rears its head. The entire reason for this bill is because Chik-fil-A got the contracts. A company that leftists know closes on Sunday for religious reasons. Of course they dress it up prettily and pretend that is not the reason. But we all know the truth...even if some of us won't admit it and will just toe the line and repeat the talking points provided.

    Though I am curious as to why a NY state legislature thinks that it has power over New Jersey's ports?
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    I'm not buying it, but lets say its true, TOUGH ****.
     
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  3. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    The bill itself specifically mentions Chik-fil-A. Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant. If you wish to deny reality that is on you.

    And yes, we all know leftists don't care about discrimination against Christians and Catholics. In fact, their identity politics demand it of them.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't buy it. Makes sense at service stations, etc.

    II'm actually all for shops being closed on a Sunday, but I can understand the service centre exemption.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    As the article notes Chik-fil-A is one of the restaurants that would be affected by this bill. And yet, this bill didn't come up until Chik-fil-A came along and got some of the contracts.

    Yes, I agree, it makes sense at service stations etc. Like I said, they dressed it up prettily. But the fact that this bill was only introduced once Chik-fil-A started getting contracts, and despite other places not remaining open 7 days a week and they've been around for a long time, and the fact that the bill itself mentions Chik-fil-A, shows that this targeted specifically because the owners close their restaurants for religious reasons.
     
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    Folks actually believe the The New York State Thruway Authority's Service Area Redesign and Rede-
    velopment Project was done just so it can force Chick-fil-a to be open on Sundays?! Wow…talk about a major persecution complex.
    Sorry, but travelers should be able to eat at rest stops any day of the week. Especially truckers who are busting their asses to deliver goods all over this country.
     
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    It shows no such thing. Religion is not mentioned in the bill. It also does not affect Chik-fil-A's already under contract allowing them to close on Sundays.

    This legislation will ensure that all future contracts for food conces-
    sions at transportation facilities owned by the Thruway Authority, as
    well as the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, will be required
    to operate seven days a week, with an exclusion to temporary concessions
    such as farmers markets or local vendors.

    Chik-fil-A's got the contracts and the state of NY found that allowing them to close on Sundays adversely impacted the people using the facilities. If Chik-fil-A wants future contracts they will have to be open on Sunday (as would ANY business entering into such a contract). No one would be forcing them into the contract.

    A contract calls for a business to pay a rental fee to be in the space. Being open on Sunday is just part of the rental fee. It's up to Chik-Fil-A to decide if that makes the rent more than they are willing to pay.
     
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    The legislation serves a secular need . Its designed narrowly rather than overly broadly, and it excludes contracts already in place that may be negatively impacted to the detriment of current contractees. I think this meets the standards for legislation consistent with the first amendment test set forth by SCOTUS. Its designed to target a problem induced by a specific business practice, not a religion or a specific company.
     
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  9. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Strawman Alert! You ever get tired of trying to put words in peoples mouths?
     
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    The State of New York does not have the right to set hours at facilities it owns?

    "The bill states that food services located at "transportation facilities and rest areas owned and operated by certain public authorities" would be open seven days a week."

    Chick-Fil-A is not forced operate in those areas! They do not own the facilities where they operate. Let them decide to leave if they find the contract a problem.
     
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    You seem to have forgotten what you posted in YOUR OP.

    Here....allow me to remind you..
    Ever get tired of being wrong? Based on how often you do it, I'd say you don't get tired of it.
     
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    How frequently does the contract come up for renewal?
     
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    Seems like its more of a contract issue for specific properties.
     
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    I’m not sure how you can say they must be open on Sunday but their normal operating hours each day is okay when they have an obligation to feed people 24/7.


    Last I checked, transportation like the trucking business is 24/7. Indeed, many truckers travel late hours specifically to avoid traffic

    in other words, if the justification for controlling a businesses operating days is to serve the public then the logical conclusion must be each business should run 24/7.

    Posters here are posting the BS of “if chic filet doesn’t like it they can leave”—wrong, if the government doesn’t like the business model, don’t award the contract.

    It’s pure stupidity for government to award a contract and then start micromanaging the business.

    What next, they’re going to tell chic Filet they need a more diverse menu to accommodate all the different appetites of the people who use their roads?

    According to some people here, that would apparently be reasonable and logical for government to do.

    ridiculous
     
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    Cool! Next lets go after all the Indian and Thai restaurants that like to be closed on Mondays. I want my Chicken Tikka on mondays and don't feel i should have to wait the extra day.
     
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    The opinion and the wording of the proposed bill don't jive. Mind pointing out in the actual proposed bill where this would be required specifically for Chick-fil-A? The article alludes to Chick-fil-A in general, but not sure if Chick Fil A franchises are located in a public transportation area called the Thruway. Not sure if there are any Chick-fil-A in the Thruway. The Thruway are basically the toll roads and rest areas along the toll roads. In essence, there are 27 service areas where food, gas, and restrooms are located. But I am not sure if there are any Chick-fil-A located in the Thruway. If they are, they can always use the religious exemption that the Supreme Court has ruled, if the franchise chooses to. And it has to do with contracts, which means, new contracts once the law, if passed and signed, goes into effect.
     
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    If those restaurants want contracts at rest stops they will have to be open on Monday's because THAT is what the bill is for. This bill is not requiring restaurants outside of rest stops to be open on Sunday's.
     
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    And that is how it is going to be in future contracts. There will be a clause that the business must be open 7 days a week. If the company bidding for the contract says that their business model is to be closed on Sunday then they have the right not to sign the contract and the state has the right to say they won't award the contract if they intend not to live up to the requirements.
     
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    New Headline: Chick-fil -a tells State of NY when rest areas will be open.
     
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    Sunday is a big travel day so I don't see a problem in them wanting to make sure the facilities have food 7 days a week. If Chick-Fil-A doesn't like it, move elsewhere.
     
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    But only in relation to hypothetical future contracts. They'll never be forced to open on a Sunday unless they choose to sign a new contract for these specific locations. The article spins the story up to try to trigger exactly the kind of knee-jerk reaction you rewarded them with.

    Do other outlets at rest stops close for a whole day though? If Chik-fil-A is the first business to win these contracts that has a policy of closing all branches on Sunday, it would be perfectly reasonable for this change to only come up now (again, only in relation to future contracts). It probably didn't cross anyone's mind that a business would take up sites at rest-stops but choose not to open seven days a week.

    This doesn't automatically make the reason the restaurant has that policy has anything to do with the motivation for the legislation. If the restaurant closed one-day-a-week for some other reason, it would cause the same kind of issue an likely trigger similar changes but if a restaurant has some other policy for religious reasons - say not serving pork - that wouldn't be an issue.

    Just because you're religious doesn't mean they're out to get you. :cool:
     
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    Sounds like the reason is to make sure the travelers have access to services at the 27 service areas in question.
     
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    The claim about this being all about Chick-fil-A is an epic fail and has been debunked. Next fake crisis?
     
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    If I leased space from you, does that give you authority to tell me what hours I have to use and open that space to the public?

    If those requirements weren't in the lease, would you be able to unilaterally modify that agreement to force me to comply?

    This example proves EXACTLY what is wrong with government. They are an authoritarian monopoly that directly threatens individual liberty.

    I'm sure if this legislation passes, they will allow Chik-Fila-A out of their lease penalty free? Right?
     
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    1: Contracts need to be renewed eventually.
    2: As I already pointed out, other locations have been in the area and closed on certain days of the week, not all on Sundays. This bill was not introduced until Chic-fil-A started getting contracts. So I claim BS on the claim of "adversely impacted the people using the facilities". Particularly since other restaurants are open on the days Chik-fil-A is closed.
     
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