Chick-fil-A would be required to open on Sundays under new bill

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  1. Nwolfe35

    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    Yep
     
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    And yet the OP and his ilk are trying to argue that it isn't the case. Go figure.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what do you mean "gets to"? They can be open 1 day a week if they wanted to. Why do you people think you can control what businesses do? I can smell the fascism a mile away!
     
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    They can control what businesses do because they hold the lease on where the business is located.
    The holder of the lease gets to determine what hours the business will be open. If the business does like the requirement then they don't have to sign the lease.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Chittenango may have only one restaurant, but it is not the only food source, even for hot food as Applegreen Store also serves hot meals.

    Again, WHERE is the inconvenience?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Lease holders do not get to tell you how to run your business.
     
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    Meanwhile we also have lefties pretending that leases don't need to be renewed, often after 1-2 years. Or that Chick-fil-A may want to open up other locations along this Thruway. This bill is designed to target ONE store. And its being targeted not because there is any inconvenience, as there is none, food is available every single day of the week regardless of this one store. And its being targeted by a committee with a history of speaking out against it.
     
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    They get to tell you what hours you operate
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Since when?
     
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    They pay rent for the space to make a profit.

    And when they don't make a profit on Sundays, will the Thruway Authority cover the loss?

    As is typical, government and most of their elected officials have absolutely no idea about how to run a business.

    Can they mandate they have to be open 24 hours? What about from 6 to 10?

    See, the problem here is, Chik-Fil-A stands to make a tremendous profit being open on Sundays. The weekend. They forgo that profit to give their employees a day off. And yet STILL government and lefties support it the mandate. If they opened, the same people would claim they are working their employees to the bone in the name of profit. There is no winning.

    All I do know is... majority of people elected to their job or working for government have absolutley zero clue how to run a business. None. But they pretend to using their almighty power afforded them by government.
     
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    Yes
    Yes
     
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    Since always. So your saying that the people who own the property have no control over it?
     
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    I don't feel like looking it up but months ago I read about a gay NY government official or position that basically said he meant to target Chik-fil-a out of existence in ny using laws.
     
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    Only up to the point of making sure that the property is not destroyed and nothing illegal is done. Point to a single lease, outside of this proposed bill, that dictates that the leaseholder must use the land X number of days.
     
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    The answer and rreasoning is within your own OP:
    Applegreen's portfolio of companies include Chick-fil-A, which by compa-
    ny policy is closed on Sundays, and which has already opened at seven
    service areas. While there is nothing objectionable about a fast food
    restaurant closing on a particular day of the week, service areas dedi-
    cated to travelers is an inappropriate location for such a restaurant.
    Publicly owned service areas should use their space to maximally benefit
    the public. Allowing for retail space to go unused one seventh of the
    week or more is a disservice and unnecessary inconvenience to travelers
    who rely on these service areas.

     
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    Can't, but does that mean its wrong to do so?
     
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    Depends, do you support a government that dictates the smallest things in our lives such as when we open up our businesses? Do you support a government that dictates when we work and don't work? Do you know what such governments are considered as?

    It might be arguable whether such is acceptable from a private, non-government, land owner to lease their property with such a stipulation...VERY arguable. But the government? That is a whole different ball game. I know I wouldn't accept such a lease from a private land owner, IE: I'd walk away from such a preposterous demand if I felt that my business would benefit better from closing at least 1 day a week. I'd be suing the government. Hell, even the government doesn't keep all of its necessary public facilities open every day of the week. If they aren't willing to do that, then what, morally speaking, in the world gives them the right to demand such of me?
     
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    Since forever.

    I used to work in a bookstore that was in a strip shopping center. We had to be open by a certain time everyday as part of our agreement with the shopping center.
     
  19. Kal'Stang

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    You think I'm going to buy that? I've been in plenty of strip malls all across the US. And in every single one of them there was always at least one shop or other closed on any given day, sometimes two, and the rest of the time open. Whoever you worked for, lied to you.
     
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    Walking away would be your right.

    I would have conversations with friends when they would complain about living with their parents. I would tell them that no matter where you live you have to pay some kind of "rent". If you are living with your parents part of that "rent" are the rules they lay down. It is up to you to decide if the "rent" is too expensive.

    Same case here. A business has to pay a "rent" in order have a place to put their business. The business has to decide if that "rent" is too expensive.

    Another example would be a concession store in a public park (city, state or national). That park gets to decide what hours that concession store is open. lf, for example, that park opens at 7 AM then the park can mandate that the company running the concession be open at 7 AM. It's just part of the "rent"
     
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    Not every strip shopping center owner is going to have the same lease conditions. I can only tell you what the conditions of our lease was.
     
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    All they have to do is hire one janitor to open the store for an hour on Sunday and tell everyone that they are out of food but people are free to come in and have a seat.
     
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    Its their land.
     
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    This is not rocket science.
    Public Transportation Services open 7 days a week require private facilities to provide their services 7 days a week makes absolute sense. For example, let's say one only has space for one private facility does this mean travelers and employees go hungry if the facility says no food from Sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday if that's their religion? Or should that facility be able to say no contract for you if you can't serve 7 days a week? No one is making Chick-fil-A open on Sundays, they are more than welcome to open up outside the transport centers and do as they wish so why should Chick-fil-A be able to dictate to the transportation centers when their services should be available?
     
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    We're talking about a stretch of area 569.83 miles long. With 16 State owned land stops where food is available. That's roughly a 8.75hr drive going 65mph non stop (65mph is the average speed limit on the thruway).... yet there are 16 stops to choose from with in that 8.75 hours. There is simply no way possible that you do not find some place with food. And 8.75 hours is well with in your 24 hour limit, and even with in the 10hr shift times that truckers have to follow. And note: All of this is not even counting all of the private businesses that are just off that thruway which they have access to via the various exits.

    The claim that there is no food available for a 24hr stretch along that thruway is complete and utter bullshit. Hell, you can't even find such a thing in the area that I live in. And it is not near as populated as that area is. Not even by 1/8th.
     
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