Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

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  1. cd8ed

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    CO is likely just the first state. It’s anticipated 4 to 5 other states will follow suit under the constitutional authority given to the states.

    The simple solution for presidents going forward is to not attempt to overthrow an election.
     
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    I suppose that explains the confusion on your part since you dont' actually know, or understand the constitution.

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. See Amdt14. 14th Emdt, section 1.3.

    What these justices did violates the law. Simple as that. Kangaroo courts often do this. It sounds like you support this illegal behavior. Why?
     
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    ROFL!!! You really just said this right? It's literally section 1 of the 14th amendment.. Maybe you should step away from the internet for a bit.

    It was a law suit that actually Trump won. Colorado courts ruled that he would remain on the ballot. It was appealed and the Colorado State Supreme court overruled the lower court ruling. It wasn't due process, as Trump was not on trial. Trump has never been charge nor convicted with insurrection nor sedition. The Colorado supreme court, in essence, convicted Trump of insurrection without a trial. That goes against his 14th amendment due process rights.
     
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    It wasn’t 3 hours, there are audio tapes this was pre planned by individuals like Giuliani, Manafort as well as the Oath Keepers and proud boys.

    Thankfully they were all as incompetent as their cult leader.
     
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    Hmm.. so, this process you advocate for isn't an attempt to "overthrow and election"? Really?
     
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    So you support Democrats accusing candidates of crimes, without a conviction, so Democrats can determine who can and can't be on ballots.
    Lets us know how you feel about red states taking Biden off their ballots for the 25th amendment.
    Or are Democrats so blind they can only see one version of this?
     
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    Either he is GUILTY of "engaging in" insurrection or not. How do you know without a formal charge and conviction?
    Then the Democrat Senators who tried to prevent Trump's certification in 2017 are "guilty" of insurrection. Lawsuit to remove them from the ballot in progress! Yay!
     
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    So you are unable to see the bigger picture?
    How do you feel about red states removing Biden for the 25th amendment?
    Or did you think (like most Democrats do) this can only be done with Democrat states?
     
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    Meant to say not part of 14A(3)

    But I addressed it anyway. A hearing in front of a court (which he had) IS due process. Boom.
     
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    That's almost as funny as the regular misreading of insurrection. Elected officials are allowed to object to individual states DURING certification, although I prefer them to have a valid reason to do so.

    May I assume you are also not a native of this country??
     
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    I'll give you that the feds invested allot of time on this one event... However, the riot itself only lasted 3 hours and there was less than 10 million in damages done to the property.
     
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    So your interpretation of the Constitution is, all you have to do is claim someone is (X) to be able to remove them from a ballot?
    You don't see this going off the rails in the future huh.
    All you do know is you hate Trump.

    It was this very same thinking that lead to a majority rule SCOTUS.
    Proving again, Democrats have no ability to think about how their actions will have historical effects on themselves.
    All they do know is orange man bad.
    Sad really
     
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    Trumps legal team WON this case in the lower court. How can you all not understand this?!
     
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    I would think that would be impossible, with a simple layman's reading of the 25th amendment...
     
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    Trump was an elected official and he objected to individual states DURING certification.. But you hate Trump so that had to be an insurrection.
     
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    Again, you added the word guilty.

    Either he engaged in insurrection or he didn’t. The Colorado courts, after a hearing affording him due process, determined that he did.

    It isn’t complicated.
     
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    If you are on video standing on the podium giving a speech to the foot soldiers, then you are engaging in the event.

    Was George Washington found guilty of leading the troops during the revolution? No, but we all know he was engaged in it.

    Besides, you are incorrect thinking this somehow helps the Dems, - it doesn't. It all but guarantees a win for GOP, because Nikki Haley or DeSantis would have no trouble beating Biden. Only Trump would lose .
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    If he engaged in it.. and, through what one calls "due process" proves it.. then he's GUILTY. I didn't add anything. I'm asking you.. without a formal charge and conviction, how do you know he did it?
    In other words, how do you know he's GUILTY?
     
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    So he doesn't have to say anything about attacking the capitol, its only important that YOU interpret his speech into something he never said so YOU can decide if he's an insurrectionist.
    Thats pretty much what everyone thought but your confirmation is appreciated.

    So where do we go from here?
    Lets get Biden off the ballot under the 25th amendment in all red states.
    All you have to do is show a few videos of him talking like the dementia ridden puppet he is and its a shoe in.
    Yeah, that works.
    How could this possibly go off the rails?
     
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    He did? When did he do that? Where does a candidate, or sitting president, have that right??

    He wasn't even at the Capitol that day...

    That's a new one... Put a smile on my face for the unique, if invalid, argument anyway...
     
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    Right because you guys aren't accusing Trump of preventing Biden from being certified by .. you know.. particitpating in an INSURRECTION by doing nothing to stop the rioters and even egging on the rioters??
     
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    He has been found liable for sexual assault. But not guilty.

    Without a formal charge or conviction, we can know if he engaged in insurrection if that question is placed before a non-criminal court, there is evidence presented, and the judge delivers a ruling.

    It isn’t complicated. You are adding the prerequisite of a criminal conviction. 14A(3) doesn’t have such a prerequisite.
     
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    Colorado judges are really our just anti-democratic Confederates coming out of the attic.

    “You can see for yourself now, Sanders said … that there is a lot of fear and anger in these kids about that whole Civil War crowd. “
    "I suggested this might not be so if they had more contact with the Civil War crowd” some of whom like Will Hill Tankersley in Montgomery, regarded themselves as progresses when it came to race.” Sanders frowned. “I prefer to deal with someone who admits their racism then with white liberals who hide it."
    CONFEDERATES IN THE ATTIC, Dispatches from the unfinished Civil War,
    Tony Horwitz, Vintage Books/Random House, NY, 1999.
    p. 369.
     
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    This ruling is unconstitutional.
     
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    Think about that for a second and remember the Leftists gave it to them...lol
     

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