Trump-Appointed Judge Halts Removal of Confederate Memorial at Arlington Cemetery

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    That’s why I say replace every confederate statue with 2 of Sherman or Lincoln. Can’t say history is erased then!
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    So where did you dad come from that didn't promote slavery in their history?
     
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    You're trying to justify you previous posts.. SO WHAT if the tribute is no longer a hero? Simply UPDATE the information so HISTORY reflects that..

    That's the sort of thing that makes history interesting..
     
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    HISTORY Mello, accuracy priority one..
     
  5. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Always reading words that aren’t there. You should see someone about that.
     
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    Whatever :roll:

    It's not some numbers game man, it's all about the story behind the chunk of stone, paint on the canvas and names on a page..

    History makes us what we are, it makes us better than what we were. Hiding the bad teaches us nothing other than how to lie better and except disinformation..

    Is this what the L folks are promoting?
     
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  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Monuments to the winners are a more accurate way to preserve history.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    How is lifting up the winners, hiding the bad? They had to beat someone lol
    911 memorials don’t hide what the terrorists did.
     
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    Well I think this thread is about demolishing old ones/history..
     
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    Whatever bro, you clearly think differently then the people that erected those artifacts of history..

    Carry on with your selective view of history

    :hiding:
     
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    See how lack of history has left your knowledge wanting ;) You follow your history back far enough you will most certainly be part of slavery, be it a slaver or slave..
     
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    With all the MAGA revisionist historians on here, it's hard to tell, but if nobody has posted the fact that the judge reversed his stay on the removal, I'd be happy to do the honors

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesf...-cemetery-to-be-removed-ending-day-long-hold/

    Even though this is a Trump appointed judge, I do have to give him credit for getting his butt out of the courtroom and actually visiting the site in question, to see how much bullshit the plaintiffs put in their filing, and lying phone calls....

    SNIP
    “I saw no desecration of graves,” Alston said in court, per the Associated Press. “The grass wasn’t even disturbed.” Alston said that he issued the order halting the memorial’s removal after receiving a call that the graves around the memorial were being disturbed, but that he found that not to be the case when he subsequently toured the site himself, the Associated Press reported.
    ENDSNIP
     
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    I have no problem with monuments to the losers, but they shouldn't necessarily be on the winners home field... That's up to the winners. There are plenty of battle-related monuments to the Confederates at Antietam and Gettysburg.... places actual battles were fought.

    New Market is a nice (if now currently overpriced) place to walk around and experience how the losers operated.. That battle was actually a win for the confederates (possibly one of the last), so this monument will fit in nicely

    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...e Shenandoah Valley.&text=Confederate Victory.
     
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    Running from your own post again?
    So where did your dad come from that didn't practice slavery?
    Can't answer that, can you. lol
     
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    Do I have this straight?
    According to some the ratio of slave owners to the population is supposed to make owning another human being not that bad at all?
     
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    Of course it is.

    The only purpose this sentenced served was equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and sticking out your tongue and saying "I know you are, but what am I".

    Didn't even bother to attempt to provide any validity to the comment.

    Just stirring the pot and deflecting.
     
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    By that logic, taking down statues celebrating Hitler was "erasing history." No one is actually dumb enough to buy that.



    Then you didn't comprehend what was written. Try again.

    Then try reading it again. Let me know what you aren't understanding and I'll try to help out.

    Let me make it simple for you: refusing to celebrate traitors isn't "erasing history." Changing history books to lie about their cause absolutely is. Get it now?
     
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    Getting here after the civil war doesn’t mean they never practiced slavery….again reading words nobody wrote
     
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    Wouldn’t monuments to Sherman help preserve the memory of the confederacy just as well? How many of those in the south?
     
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    For someone who wants to take down Confederate monuments and replace them with Union monuments because he is so hurt over slavery of the 1800s, who claims he even loses sleep over his mom being a descendant of slave owners, you seem ok about it everywhere else.
    Funny how that works
     
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    For someone who desires our country to erect celebratory monuments of people who WENT TO WAR AGAINST US for the express purpose of preserving slavery, you sure seem to have odd standards. Any other of our war enemies you'd like to erect monuments to?
     
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    Did you have a post of mine that makes such a claim, or were you just regurgitating your own imagination again?
     
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    So you are against the monuments now! Great! Glad we are on the same page.
     
  24. The Mello Guy

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    When did I say im hurt over slavery? I’m just against honoring the southern traitors.
    You really gotta read the words I type.
     
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    The point is that your first statement was wrong. That woman was neither a hero nor a villian. Simply a representation of healing. Are you now saying that the nation doesn't need to heal post the civil war? There are many threads in this forum, including this one, that show evidence that it is still a deep cut. Simply put, it's a monument in a cemetary where both sides are buried. I have no clue what people find so objectionable about it that it should deserve to be removed. To me, it appears to be an interesting monument and if I were to wander upon it, I would stop and read about why it's there. That's the point of a monument.
     
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