Perry for President but dodged VIETNAM

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    That was Army wasn't it. WO's flew helicopters and still do in the Army.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not when it comes to the US.

    Still waiting for you to explain how he dodged a war that was over before he could fight in it and how he dodge anything when he would never have been drafted.
     
  3. Yukon

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    Blueguy,

    Do the math bright-eyes, Born 12950, draft eligible in 1968, war ended in 1974. therefor the yellow-dog Perry from Texas should have served in Vietnam. I know, I was drafted in 1967 at age 19.
     
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    Yes, Army. Every third person in lines at the induction center were "counted off" to be Marines for two years.
     
  5. Object227

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    Can you illustrate how is lack of service in Vietnam is detrimental to your interests as a Canadian? Why do you care?
     
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    Yeah I went and looked it up. While I don't consider Perry the best candidate as far as electibility goes, I'm not fond of just plain bullsh*t from either side and will call people on it. This would be one of those cases. The OP is complete BS.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    His draft number was 275 he was not subject to being called. He could have just gone to beach and not worried about it.

    You know nothing about US history or our draft, stop digging your hole. And the peace accords were signed January 1973, that ended US military involvement.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    My oldest was a Gunny and almost switch to Army to fly heli's as a WO. He ended up getting his degree and getting his Marine Corp commission.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Yes there position seems to be that every male in the US that at age 18 did not go and volunteer to be a ground pounder in Vietnam is a coward and dodged the draft. Even if they served in another branch, even if that service carried it's own dangers, even if those dangers put them in MORE jeopardy than volunteering for Vietnam.
     
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    it doesn't appear that Canada had conscription after WWII. so if you were drafted in 1967, you are an American. would you be one of the "draft dodgers" who fled to Canada during the 1960's and early 70's?
     
  11. Yukon

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    BINGO.....but after I served.
     
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    you aren't being clear, you fled to Canada after you served in Vietnam?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    What do you mean by "should have served in Vietnam"? Why?
    98% of Americans did not serve in Vietnam, they were suppose to?

    YOU had to be drafted, Perry joined. Who has the higher moral ground here?
     
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    ...BINGO again.
     
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    Are we supposed to associate being drafted with some sort of extra heroism or courage
    as compared to a volunteer?

    Gov. Perry volunteered...rather than go enlisted he went the officer route
    which in the Air Force requires a 4 year college degree prior to getting a commission

    There's an inferrance here that Gov. Perry avoided volunteering as enlisted
    because of cowardice.

    Insinuating that 4 years of college guaranteed the war would be over by the time
    graduation and commissioning rolled around.

    That's a bit of an assumption.

    Gov. Perry volunteered and he served honorably...those are the facts.
     
  16. Object227

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    Beyond that, the OP makes no effort to demonstrate the harmful nature of his lack of Vietnam service. How does it harm his interests now as a Canadian? His signature contains a quote from former President Clinton who dodged the draft and expressed a loathing of the military but it is an actual service member that he chooses to denigrate.
     
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    Clinton admitted to his dishonourable activity during the Vietnam war..BUSH JUNIOR lied about it.
     
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    Now THAT is a crock of feces. But I am surely not surprised. :roll:

    I do not think you served. Not even in the cub scouts.
     
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    VN was a UN War, but now perry does work for the UN, whos masters are the authors of war, while they sell their existance as peace.
     
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    Your thread is about Rick Perry. Why bring Bush into this?
     
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    Viet Nam is the least of his problems. He is so far right as to be totally unelectable.
     
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    First I'll list the part of your post you got correct:

    (I need your feedback, please help me understand this for Im just a poor dumb Canadian)

    The rest you got wrong. Again.

    Perry flew where the USAF assigned him to fly from 72 to 76, You might try looking it up but to save you making still another error. Vietnam was still being fought in 72. So he was in service during Vietnam and he served at the convenience of the USAF. Had they needed another cargo pilot in country, they would have sent Perry or whoever they wished. You didn't serve in Vietnam, I did. Perry was in the same military as I was. He followed orders. And to educate you a sorely needed bit more, orders, means a stack of papers about 4 inches thick. They tell you where to go, when to go, when to arrive, and how to get there, wherever there is. And when you leave where you were, everybody you see gets a copy of your orders, and as you travel, everybody gets a copy of your orders, and when you arrive, everybody there gets a copy of your orders, and STILL you have copies left over.
    And going to college FIRST, instead of being a grunt, is true of about 99% of all officers in all armies. One must have CREDENTIALS, [you can look it up later], to become an officer and a gentleman.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Yes even though he had a high draft number and was inoculated form being called up. He could have sat back and never joined the military with no fear of being drafted.

    And beyond that he volunteer and could have been sent over for a tour of duty had the war not ended when it did. I guess it's his fault the war ended before he could do a tour.
     
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    Blind men throwing darts.
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    ROFL even more ignorance, he denied it and tried to lie about it and hide the facts and the left made fools of themselves trying to defend it.
     

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