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Did God Give Israel To The Jews?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Stray Cat, Mar 26, 2011.

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  1. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    your guarantee is total nonsense, illogical, foolish and impossible as well as worthless.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 21, 2011
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  2. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    I do not worry about anything any god may or may not do. I do however, worry about what idiotic, insane, crazy, fanatical religious nuts may do.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 21, 2011
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  3. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing happened to Allah, JESUS, Jehovah, Zeus or any of the other gods, they never existed for anything to happen to. Instead, why not ask the Jewish people that lived during the last 2000 years, where was their god? LOL, if Jehovah can take off 2000 years, certainly Allah can take of1400.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 21, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    krew09
    IGNORED!
     
    tomteapack, Aug 21, 2011
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    The Jews can read their Old Testament and know exactly where God has been and why they are where they have been. God never takes off. Which is why Israel is back in the land. Sorry about allah's scheduling.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 22, 2011
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    The Jews will one day follow their Bible and God.

    No, it started all the way back in Genesis. Forget the Egyptian commands.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 22, 2011
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was man that wrote "thus saith the Lord". This is not a signature.

    The land was taken, their temple destroyed.

    Man conquered Israel. Israel was no longer owners of the land.

    God did not give the land to Israel "forever" . .just for a short period of time.

    Perhaps God did not promise the land to Israel for all time. Israel is there today because the winners of ww2 gave them the land after the war due to a mistaken religious belief.
     
    Giftedone, Aug 22, 2011
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    Israel has hardly been a land of milk and honey.. Its been conquered and occupied and destroyed repeatedly....


     
    Margot, Aug 22, 2011
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    Sure it is. It is either a signature or a lie.

    The land was taken from the Jews. It was not taken from God. It belongs to God. And God gave it to Israel. God turned them over to their enemies because of their idolotry. But God did not give the land to the Arabs. Any Arabs that want to live there, do so at your peril. Because God gives it to Israel.

    Sorry. God owns the land. And God gave it to Israel. If you don't believe it, too bad. Take a look. Israel is there today.

    Perhaps? Perhaps the Arabs can't run Israel out. How about that for a perhaps? Why? They have the numbers. Why? God, thats why.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 22, 2011
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    Who cares? It belongs to Israel.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 22, 2011
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    So you say that God took their land because of idolatry but they will return to animal sacrifice????
     
    Margot, Aug 22, 2011
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And someone else owned the land 1000 years before that so it is their land, not Israels.

    Israel stole the land !!
     
    Giftedone, Aug 22, 2011
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    No. I said the land is God's. He gives it to who He wants. He gave it to Israel forever.

    Yes, Israel was under the judgement of God and removed from the land. But with the promise of return, because God has given it to Israel forever.

    Yes, the animal sacrifice will be reinstituted.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 22, 2011
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    It is not a signature .. it may be a lie .. it could be from a vision.

    Bottom line ... you nor I have no clue.

    Try going to court and arguing .. I have no clue .. and no evidence but ... Israel owns the land because God says so.

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    There ya go .. you said all that needs be said. God took Israel's land away.

    Question ... How did God take the land away ?

    Answer: By causing Arabs to take it

    Conclusion: God gave the land to the Arabs.

    You are just too blind to the truth to see it.
     
    Giftedone, Aug 22, 2011
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    Technically he gave it to them under a covenant. ..
     
    Margot, Aug 22, 2011
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    No.

    It belongs to everyone.
     
    Ezra, Aug 22, 2011
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    Yes... It does because that's where Jesus' ministry was.......
     
    Margot, Aug 22, 2011
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    You don't have a clue. I know its the Word of God. As God says, 'thus saith the Lord'.

    Im not worried about mans court. God says the land belongs to Israel. And just so happens man was instrumental in bringing the Jews back. See how it works.

    The land is God's and he gave it to Israel. He never gave it to the Arabs. Once Israel is removed from the land in judgement, it still belongs to Israel. It doesn't matter how many squatters moved in during that time.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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    Ok. And....?

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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    No, it belongs to Israel.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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    And what does that have to do with the land?

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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    You are right. I do not have a clue about the validity of the writing of a fellow who:

    1) Has no identity,
    2) Is writing centuries after these supposed events had taken place, on the basis of some stories he had heard.

    All you know for sure is that this fellow wrote .. "thus saith the Lord" based on some childhood myths.

    You have no idea about the validity of the story.

    The story of the Koran is just as valid based on the fact that at least we know who wrote the story.

    The truth of the matter is that we have no clue about the validity of either and as such there is no valid contract.
     
    Giftedone, Aug 23, 2011
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    God sent Jesus with a message to the land of Israel..
     
    Margot, Aug 23, 2011
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Quantrill, ignored for cause!
     
    tomteapack, Aug 23, 2011
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    So if Hitler chose to call himself 'Israel' it would belong to him? (Not very) sancta simplicitas! The nazi occupiers are NOT Jews nor are they ISRAEL - they are racist child-murderers, and you are a servant of the Devil, as you know.
     
    Iolo, Aug 23, 2011
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