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Did God Give Israel To The Jews?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Stray Cat, Mar 26, 2011.

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  1. MuzzleBreak

    MuzzleBreak New Member

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    Thanks for calling him out. Do you really think he knows what he's doing?
     
    MuzzleBreak, Aug 23, 2011
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  2. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Again, 'you' have no clue. I do. Its exactly as it is told in the Bible.

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    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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  3. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    God sent Jesus Christ as the King of Israel, and Saviour of the world. So?


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    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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  4. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Israel is Israel. Pretty simple. Yes, the Jews in the land are Jews. And the nation there is Israel.

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    Quantrill, Aug 23, 2011
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  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you know anything about the validity of the stories written by a man centuries after the fact ?
     
    Giftedone, Aug 23, 2011
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  6. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

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    Jesus wasn't the King of Israel.. Herod was King..

    If you don't know about Azazel, you haven't read Leviticus.
     
    Margot, Aug 23, 2011
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  7. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    Yes it did.

    And he gave all of the muslims nations to them too, in repayment of the covenant that was rightfully Ishmael's.
     
    Daggdag, Aug 24, 2011
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  8. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Because I am born-again by the Spirit of God and have His Spirit in me. The Bible is authored by Gods Spirit, and my Spirit which is of God, recognizes and knows the Bible is the Word of God and is true.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 24, 2011
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  9. Quantrill

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    Jesus was and is the King of Israel and Saviour of the world.

    Im aware of the goats in Leviticus.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 24, 2011
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  10. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being dunked in water in a ritual ceremony does not allow you to validate history. Sorry.

    Baptism was originally done in the name of Jesus Christ .. not in the name of the "father, son, and holy spirit"

    The baptismal verbage was changed by the church in the second century.
    by the Catholic Church in the second century."
    -The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263

    The Bible has been changed by the hand of man numerous times and in numerous ways. You do not know which is the hand of man or the hand of God.
     
    Giftedone, Aug 24, 2011
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  11. Quantrill

    Quantrill New Member

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    Being born-again is by the Spirit of God.

    The Bible is the Word of God. That was easy.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 24, 2011
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    Since the devil is non-existent, just like any and all gods, then where in the world did the reference to Nazis come from? Nazi occupiers of what, when, and where?
     
    tomteapack, Aug 24, 2011
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    All of the bible is the word of men. No god or gods exist. The only thing that has ever written any book about any so-called god is a human thing. That it itself is proof no gods exist, lol. If a god existed, you would think they would at least be smart enough to learn to read and write.
     
    tomteapack, Aug 24, 2011
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  14. Quantrill

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    The Bible is the Word of God. God is the Author. When your read the words in the Bible, you're reading the words of God.

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    Quantrill, Aug 24, 2011
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  15. AllEvil

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  16. Daggdag

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    Then how do you explain by the bible contridicts itself.....

    I will give a number of examples....

    1; There are multiple acounts of the death of Goliath, some giving credit to David, others giving credit to someone named Elhanan.

    2 Samuel 21:19 (NASB) "There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam."






    2; The author of most of the New Testimant, Paul, contridicted the teachings of Christ several times, enough to some early christian thought him to be a spy sent by the Philistines.

    Paul said:
    For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified

    Jesus said:
    Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, til heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    Paul said:
    the night is far gone, the day is at hand.

    Jesus said:
    Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
    saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.






    If the bible was written by god, god contridicts himself alot.....It's a good think any sane person would understand that each person who held the pen added their own point of view and interpetation.
     
    Daggdag, Aug 25, 2011
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    The zionist movement, like the nazi movement, grew out of racist German nationalism and shared most views with it. All the zionists learned from Hitler's murders of Jews and others was to be on the active edge of racism, driving out and murdering the 'untermenchen', but specialising in child murder. The nazis were defending capitalism, but otherwise the zionists are simply the same gang in different uniforms, and prevented for the time being from setting about their Final solution to the Native Question by a faint queasiness in American politicians who finance them - at least until AIPAC kicks them a bit harder.

    I use the word 'Devil' when talking to primitives because it is the term they understand for 'absolute evil'.
     
    Iolo, Aug 25, 2011
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  18. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only you are simple. 'Israel' is a collection of allsorts united by being EXJews, as you know. You are supporting those who destroy peace and murder the little ones. Got a great millstone and an asbestos suit, devil-worshipper?
     
    Iolo, Aug 25, 2011
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  19. Daggdag

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    The Israel of the bible is long dead.....Now Israel is a corupt nation that forces innocent families out of their homes so their own people can live there.
     
    Daggdag, Aug 25, 2011
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  20. Quantrill

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    No, there are no contridictions in the Bible. There are plenty of supposed contridictions in the Bible. But, they are just something not understood by believers. And they are for you the non-believer to have something to whine about and turn away from it. Because your not looking for answers, your looking for 'contridicitions'.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 25, 2011
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  21. Quantrill

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    I support the nation of Israel as God supports the nation of Israel.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 25, 2011
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  22. Quantrill

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    But God will bring Israel back as He promised in the Scripture.

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    Quantrill, Aug 25, 2011
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  23. Margot

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    The Jewish claim to Palestine is the story of a people evolving into monotheism and it has value..

    But its NOT an excuse to shatter the Commandments...
     
    Margot, Aug 25, 2011
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  24. Quantrill

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    No, the Jews started with One God.

    War is part of a nations work. Defense is part of a nations work.

    Quantrill
     
    Quantrill, Aug 25, 2011
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  25. Giftedone

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    Of course it is easy for you to repeat yourself over and over again, but that is not evidence or justification for anything...

    other than self delusion and denial.

    Baptism - "being born again" as practiced by the early Christians did not involve .. "father and holy ghost" folks were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

    Since "the holy spirit" did not tell you anything .... how do you know that the Bible is the word of God ?
     
    Giftedone, Aug 25, 2011
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