Why follow God and what makes it moral?

1Cr 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

That was the scripture you quoted.
What do you think it means?
Why did you quote it?

 

Another atheist attempting to use my faith, a faith he doesn't follow or understand, to judge me? What a shock.

You really think your petulant attacks will phase my faith?

Only one of us is capable of an apology, and that would not be the one that fears standards - it would be the one attempting to warn others with the standard even as he violates it.

You scratch the Bible, but you have neither knoweldge nor wisdom. I fear not your ignorance or your petulant standards.

Inc just posted this, and still you walk by blind and dumb:

1Cr 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.


Indeed, when you can actually apply these standards to those who agree with you, rather than use it like a bully uses a weapon, I might take you seriously. As simply as I can state this, your assesmeng is, at best, unobjective. As a former atheist, I could be a raving jerkoff, and never would an atheist call me task on it. Never. You judgement is nothing by an intended insult - and will be treated as such. I know when feedback is honest, yours is not it.

So, until such a time as you are at least capable of an objective judgement, you are just a screaming child.

 

Just to appease your curiosity... the scripture plainly states the negative of what you accused me of... knowing the mind of the Lord... Neither me nor anyone else can "know" the mind of the Lord, but as Christians we are guided through the mind of Christ.

The reason it was quoted, should be self evident in the face of the accusation that you made against me and my beliefs, and your declaration of having not any doubt regarding that matter.

 

So you don't have the mind of Christ?

Goodnight.

 

I don;t like bullies. Not one bit. I know the source of my anger, and when someone accuses me of having been a abused by my father, a man so good that I am shocked he is my father, I think I have every right to be angry - wouldn't you?

Again, when you act like an atheist, talk like an atheist, walk like an atheist?

Call yourself whatever you want to, but here you sit demanding others deal with anger when you have a mountain of anger to deal with .... and are clearly not dealing with it.

Sorry brother, but you don't need people who will ignore your anger simply because you point out that other people are angry. You ask for kindess, get it, and still the anger is there.

Mine, right now? Is gone. Not angry at all.

BB, you came into here for a reason, and you fight me for a reason. You keep coming back for a reason. You keep getting wrapped up in being called an atheist while pointed skipping over the reasons I call you one.

Why do YOU think you act like an atheist? Seriously?

 

Very well put.

 

Bait and switch tactics don't work. You spoke of "knowing" the mind of the Lord not about having 'the mind of Christ'. Keep things in context and quit being intellectually dishonest.

 

Obviously you do not fear ignorance. You close your eyes, ears, mouth, nose and anything else that might let the truth in.

What you really fear is the truth.

You fear the truth so much that you got mad I said that Bible teaches us to question and seek wisdom.

 

'literal resurrection', enough said charlatan.

Some one stood up to you. And yet, for doing so, you run around and accuse others of fearing the truth of questions?

Like I have said many time, atheists question Christains, height of reason and the search for truth.

Question an atheist, victims to lot of them, all rationalization for lashing out is justified.

You cannot even seek straight, nor indeed read BTW - I got made because you are lecherous ignorant man in my faith, one who has not even read the Bible, who is attempting to use the Bible to hold me to task?

What is wise about that?

Once again, if you applied even a modicum of honesty to your positions, actually questioned yourself rather than just others, you would see yourself as I do - which is anything but threat.

Just a kid with a chip on his shoulder.

 

If that works for you, great.

 

I don't act like one.
You confuse not being a Bible literalist with being an atheist.
Are people being unfair in holding you to the basic ideas of your Lord and Savior? Your way of communicating is at odds with the Fruits of the Spirit in almost every single post you make.
The reason I don't attack atheists when they do the same things is they don't attach themselves to those teachings. They aren't holding themselves up to the same standards that Christians are. They may be jerks, but they aren't necessarily hypocrites.
You say you have a responsibility to point out my anger. Why wouldn't I have the same responsibility to point out yours?
My anger stems from what self professed Christians have done to abuse some of the most powerful, challenging and radical teachings the world has ever seen. I hate watching Jesus getting re-crucified over and over by people who would use him to justify the mean, the dishonest, the cruel, the judgmental.
You can't recant your dishonest characterizations of me because your pride won't allow you to. When it does, we can move on in a spirit of honesty and kindness. Until then, your kindness is meerly a tactic.

 

That is a cop out and an excuse. I Bible literalist would be a fundamentalist, a Creationist, etc. and you have stated no opinion on that one way or another.

What you do, just like an atheist, is ripe standards (or what you think standards are) out of the Bible to attack people - and them, just like an atheist, you claim that YOU are not subjected to those standards.

Just like an atheist, you assume that YOU know the Bible and that others do not. You assume that those of us who defend the Bible and its teachings are wrong, as is anything other than the most placid of responses to bashing. Just like an atheist.

You also, just like an atheist, turn a blind eye to those who attack as you do, for example, not once telling gifted he is out of line even as you bash Inc and myself (and probably anyone else who says,"Stop BB!")

You are also, just like an atheist, wrapped up around percieved and real insults while taking zero responsibility or offering not a single apology for any of your own behavior.

Once again, a literal interpretation has nothing to do with this behavior. It is common in dealing with modern atheists, with the caviate that not all atheists act this way - just enough that it has become the tone of modern atheism.

In short, just like many modern atheists, you want to hold others accountable, but you do not want to be held accountable - and I believe I have stated repeatedly, as have others, that one of the things that atheists fear about God is accountablity to him.

 

Is there a concern or question as to whether or not my suggestion would work for you?

 

None at all.

 

Sure. Ok. Go with that.

 

Well, take a good look at gifted's comments, and tell me why his are identical to yours.

If that is good for you - more power to you.

Accountability is a two way street, and you brother, have indeed been treated much better then you have treated a LOT of people. Indeed, even when you get the kindness you demand, well, even that has a giant excuse to ignore does it not?

No one has to fix your issues with anger but you. People get angry all the time, not everyone walks into a an internet forum with a giant chip on their shuolder daring people to challenge them so they can get into a fight.

I'd be nice to see you apologize for, at least, the comments you made about my father - who is certainly anything but abusive.

 

In other words then, you don't care if someone uses deceptive methods of posting on this forum.? Is 'deception' one of those gifts of the Spirit? No? But you don't care if someone uses deceptive practices?

 

You asked me to guess about the reasons you did something later in your life? How would I know? So that was my guess.
The rest is a sermon. I'm not in your congregation.

 

Not that at all.
I'm just thoroughly bored now talking to both of you.

 

So, basically, you ignored everything I said - including the fact that this is a DEBATE FORUM. You are also, now, just making things up.

What does gifted saying, and its identical tone and verse have to do with guessing about anything in my life?

Its more of the same, you want apologies, but refuse to give them. You want to hold others accountable, but, of course, you refuse to allow anyone to hold you accountable - not even you.

You demand apologies, get them - but then reject them as all fake. You demand kindness, and then reject them all as fake. Still the anger and resentment come through.

Whatever you issue is, its up to YOU to deal with it.

So, in the mean time, why are you even here? Why are you coming around and preaching the gospel that any Christian who disagrees with you or stands up to you is the 'enemy in the pew'?

If you are looking for the reality of Christ, then you find it in teh acknowledgement of everyone's imperfection and his love and acceptance for us anyways. If you are instead demanding Christ's perfection in every man (Even as you violate those stndards)? You've missed the point entirely.

 

And not confronting your shortcomings but rather coming up with excuses so you can continue with your ignoring of the teachings is missing the point. I'm not expecting believers to be perfect. I'm expecting them to try.
I'm really bored with this. If it is up to me to deal with my problems, then stop trying to "cure" me. I'm clearly hopelessly lost.

 

Yes .. lash out young padwan .. yeild to the dark side.

All you can do is demonize when presented with evidence that do not coincide with your beliefs.

This is not the path of knowledge but the path of one who is blind to the truth.

 

You are lost, and once again just being a jerk. Congrats

Everyone has shortcomings and you enjoy pointing them out. Wow, that must be nice.

Its called a toxic personality.

Enjoy, I am done with you on this one - all you want to do is abuse and are incapable of discussion or a reasoned dialoge.

BYE! Enjoy the hate - you'll fit in well with the other atheists.

 

You see what I mean?

You two enjoy the hate and bile of someone daring to stand up to you.

Its really, according to psychologists, can be traced to low self esteem. Enjoy the dysfuction! There is no accountability in atheism, so you'll never have to face the music!

Oh wait, if you tell the truth ... you are not Christian.

 

Then don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.