Republican's want the economy to fail

in a child's mind.

 

I just sat here listening to a house Republican speaking on te bill to fund diaster relief for floding in Pennsylvania. He was pleading for it to be passed forthe people of his state. We can all agree to help these people. What he didn't say was that the Republicans also put in the bill cuts to green jobs. I'm noit arguing that point. But, to hold diaser relief for people hostage to cuting green jobs is dirty pool. It should be a seperate fight. This is a stategy that the republicans seem to be using on a weekly basis. I think people are getting tired of this. The Republicans seem to think that the American peole are to stupid to see through this tactic. We will see

 

This kind of crap happens on both side of the aisle. I know there has been a bill in Congress that would require new legislation to be about one subject only, with no unrelated riders. I wish that bill could see the light of day. I'm sick of these sneaky tactics from both sides.

 

Then it's time for you to grow up.

 

Everybody knows?

That's rather a sweeping statement for a multi trillion US dollar deficit that was achieved without paying taxes.

 

I don't believe that Republicans want the economy to fail.. I think they don't know WHAT to do to fix it so their fall back position is to simply stall and attack Obama.

 

Children, no one understands something when their salary depends on them NOT knowing it.

That quote applies equally to Republicans and Democrats.

Most if not all politicians on both sides are owned by very rich special interests who have no desire to pay more tax.

The rich special interests also hire eminent people to tell the public why it isn't good for the country to make rich special interests pay more tax, and a lot of the Rubes believe that malarkey.

You can tell that it works by the number of economic illiterates who go on about Austrian economists. Face it guys, Keynesian economics is settled fact. You are stuck in a "liquidity trap" where Federal interest rates are already so low that lowering them further won't stimulate the economy, the only way out is by inflation.

Worse still guys, the very rich have shorted America - they have placed financial bets against their own country, they profit from your agony.


It is perfectly clear what needs to be done;

1) Inflate the economy immediately via stimulus by building infrastructure. That needs to be not $400 billion, try $800 billion for starters.

2) Get people out of Iraq and Afghanistan right ****ing now and start cutting the defense budget the cost of which is eating America alive.

3) Turn a team of economists loose on the American economy and start cutting out the cosy special deals (called rent seeking behaviour) with an axe and chainsaw. These are poisoning economic growth. You can start by revisiting healthcare and focussing on why it costs so much and delivers so little.

4) Turn a team of economists and lawyers loose on the judicial system and destroy the "Two class" system as well as put teeth into both corruption and financial regulation.

In other words REFORM AND CHANGE.

Ain't going to happen though until you reform campaign finance laws and that nevah goin tuh happen.....

 

Not really. It's just simpler and more fun to sit back and watch the stupidity at work.

 

Refresh my memory... what policies did George Bush put in place that caused the financial crisis?

 

Deregulation of the finincal markets, The Bush Tax cuts, Medicare prescription drug bill witout pay for it, two wars on the credit card,............

 

I know you are, but what am I.

That was pretty uninspiring BTW.

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This thread is 100% correct. Republican's have chosen party over country and are dead set at making Obama fail regardless of the cost to American's.

This is not good!!!

 

so political whores spend trillions unabated, because they write the laws that enable themselves to do so, benefitting both them and the banker billionaires, and you want the people to pay for it ?

You must be one of them. You must enjoy seeing the ultra wealthy get rich on the backs of the mildly successful.

 

Obama schmoozes with bankers and very wealthy potential donors. This event took place at a $35,800-a-plate dinner with Wall Street executives in a posh Manhattan restaurant. And Obama wants us to believe he is a man of the people and sincerely wants to raise taxes on the wealthy! Here is the greatest authoritarian and one of the phoniest and most insincere presidents we have ever had!

 

You mean the President of the United States eats dinner! Wow, thanks for the info!!

 

Although that's basically what I thought you would say, none of those things have anything to do with the financial crisis.

You might be able to make an argument that the deregulating financial markets could have had an impact, but what deregulation?

If there is a piece of legislation that Bush signed into law that deregulated financial markets that helped cause the financial crisis please tell me what it is.

 

Not necessarily financial deregulation, but regulatory changes to the CRA in 2005 and 2007 were part of the 30 years of deregulation policies that led to the financial crisis of 2008.

 

I (selfishly) want the government to keep propping up the economy until gold is $3G and silver is $100 (roughly).
Then I will sell.

Then I want the American economy to collapse enough to make people finally realize that big government's controlling economies is a horrible way to run things.

This will hopefully open the door to a much freer market economy and a FAR more fiscally responsible government - and a FAR weaker FED as well.

I am afraid America (and the world) is going to have to experience MUCH more economic misery before they finally clue in.

And since there is nothing I can do to change that - I might as well try and make money out of it.

 

I'm open to the concept, but I'm not sure what the changes did that help initiate the crisis, particularly at that late date. By 2005 the housing bubble was in full inflate; a little late to be instigated by policies initiated in 2005.

 

History supports that premise. However, many experts have cautioned the 'reading' of the American people's perceptions on the matter at this point. Particularly considering, that the President's reelection prospects are not actually as 'bad' as many on the 'Right' would consider them to be.

And some of that has to do with the 'extremism' being exposed within the Republican party of late. Americans are looking to select the most 'pragmatic' candidate, in light of the numerous problems to be solved. Politics is not something most Americans are fond of at this point. Obama has begun to ratchet-up the fight for more 'practical' solutions to be applied; that will (in the present arena) likely improve his approval ratings overall.

Correct. And that is the kind of 'political' thing, which won't improve the approval ratings of his opponents. They either put-up or shut-up; which would improve their prospects of a Republican candidate being elected to the Oval Office.

Yep. That is generally the message they are propagating.

You are spot-on, in my opinion.

 

No entirely true - the president generally gets the credit/blame even if he did nothing

republicans ruin the economy --> Oboma gets blamed becsue he was the one "in charge" --> He doen't get elected --> the republicans are happy.
the economy is sad...

 

If Obama succeeds, we'll be a Socialist country, run by Government Fiat, with the rich dragged down to the level of the poor and the poor scratching a living off government handouts. In other words, we'd be just like the failed Soviet Empire, before they cast off their Communist dictators.

If Obama fails, we return to prosperity with a Free Market economy, where people are rewarded for their hard work and enterprising spirit.

YES... I want Obama's Big Government Policies to fail.

YES, I want the Government to STOP THE SPENDING!!!

 

More blame Bush while Obama has not fixed anything instead his hope and change has made us in even worse shape

 

Is that why Reid is threatening to shut down the government?

 

No he charges others to eat with him