Occupy Movement Still not Changing Anything

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  1. SiliconMagician

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    Well it's been months now and lets see exactly what Occupy has managed to change:

    How about nothing.

    The corporations are still making profits.

    Taxes still aren't going up.

    Universal Health Care is still dead in the water and an unpopular idea.

    Obamacare is still being repudiated by State after State and still under threat in the Supreme Court.

    Polls still show a widening enthusiasm gap by Republicans over Democrats

    Obama is still sucking with middle class white voters in key swing states

    The majority of the American People still feel that the Government is big enough to be a direct threat to their freedom and liberty.

    So the Occupy movement still hasn't, and probably will never achieve it's stated goals of punishing the rich and the corporations on behalf of their imaginary "99%"
     
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    SiliconMagician Banned

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    That isn't true. When over 600,000 people moved their money from banks to credit unions, that made an impact on the banks who lost several BILLION dollars. Some banks lowered their fees in response, but those depositors are gone. The OWS movement is publicizing the injustices of the system which bails out mega-corporations on the taxpayers' backs and legislates goodies to those corporations that limit competition and are harmful to small businesses and we the people. I'd like to think that this is the beginning of real change, not communism, socialism, anarchy, dirty hippie-ism and all the biased crap being fed to us on the propaganda stations/MSM.

    We the people can make a difference if we would quit swallowing the Koolaid being dished out by the MSM and unite instead of squabbling. The tea party united disparate groups who had the goal of reducing the size of government, and the OWS is comprised of disparate groups who have the goal of publicizing injustices and coming up with ways to rectify the situation. It would be awesome if all of those groups would unite instead of engaging in childish name calling like "fleabaggers" and "*********s." :roll: The people using these terms may not realize they sound like morons, but they do.
     
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    Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*)? I been using a credit union for over 10 years. BFD so they got a couple banks to get rid of a 5 dollar fee.

    For that 3 people gave their lives?

    Our economic system is our economic system and has been in place for over 200 years despite civil war, two world wars and even survived FDR. If it can't fall from all that, these punks are just pissing into the wind.

    They think they are suffering now? Wait until the Euro crashes before the New Year, then they'll see suffering.
     
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    Don't worry about it, he's a bankster. The fact remains they HAVE done something.
     
  7. Lady Luna

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    The banks who lost the money care.

    The system will fail. The handwriting is on the wall. The spending is unsustainable and nothing is being done to stop it except for show. The fact that the debt ceiling was raised instead of slashing spending proves it.

    Yes, our system has been in place for over 200 years, but the astronomical debt that can never be repaid will bring it down.

    We all will.
     
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    They'll make it up somehow. They are banks.



    The system isn't going to fail. We're Americans and made of meaner (*)(*)(*)(*) than the Chinese and the Europeans combined. We didn't claw our way out of animal skins and living in the forest with the (*)(*)(*)(*) natives and build the entire global economic system that improved the lives of billions just to watch it all crash. It may fail elsewhere, but we'll limp along just as we always have.

    Not once Obama's spendthrift ass is tossed out and proper Americans with some economic sense put in some pro-growth policies and we enact some much needed austerity.

    Not me, the chances of my corporate sponsors like Kroger, Coca-Cola, Procter and God aren't going anywhere. I'm sitting pretty in a globalized industry with solid revenues and 60% profits and the company just sold 5 properties for a cool 5 mill a piece and has enough liquidity to ride out anything. I'm dug in like those lice infesting the OWS kids.
     
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    Your ignorance about social movements is great.

    Do you think that things are done in one month? And more peacefully? Change is a long way.

    And some points: Public healthcare is more supported than you think, even I would say that a majority support it. AS many other things.
     
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    No comments.
     
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    The very fact they are there which causes posts of discontent, shows they are doing something, notwithstanding that the actions of a few are heaped on the many.

    The same applies in respect of the businesses they choose to demonstrate over. It may not change the way business is done but it reminds everyone doing that business that many people don't approve of it and won't tolerate in the future what they tolerated in the past.

    To cause Bank of America, the instigator of the monthly debit charge to withdraw it after other banks had introduced it in their stead but withdrawn it prior to Bank of America's very public climbdown shows the effect and anyone who chooses to ignore it is living in the land of make believe.
     
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    SM is the kind of person who won't be happy until we are all slaving to corporations by paying "convience fees" to even breathe. To someone like him a corporation lives outside the rules and should do what it wants to make a buck, regardless of consequences. Its pathetic really.
     
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    They got the major banks to back off of their proposed debit fees, which was kinda the straw that broke the camels back in the first place.

    Besides that, they were he catalyst for tens of thousands of people moving their money to local credit unions in the past couple months.
     
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    YES! Well said.:)
     
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    They aren't there to change anything. They are there to party....and by party that means:

    Smoke pot
    Have sex
    Be naked in public
    Crap in public places
    (*)(*)(*)(*) on sidewalks
    Bath in public restroom sinks
    Have a drumcircle
    Rob
    Vandalize
    Shut private businesses down
    Create filth
    Spread disease
    Usher in rodents and cockroaches
    Put taxpayers on the hook for their mess
    Incite Police
    Build bonfires on public streets
    Disguise themselves


    What am I forgetting?

    Oh yea....make a difference in the world
     
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    I have a question for you, kk8? Have you personally attended an Occupy movement and seen everyone there engaging in these activities, or are you getting your information from a third party, like the news outlets?

    I have attended a local movement, and based on what I saw firsthand, what you wrote is BS.
     
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    How many nonsesense to read.

    Is increidble how the extreme right is always equal. In Spain our particular Fox News, Intereconomia says the same about the 15M. That they are not doing anything more than smoke pot, (*)(*)(*)(*), and things like that. Pure bullcrap. Pure desinformation. And even they manipulate interviews or directly they create the interviews.
     
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    Gawd, I'm devastated by this turn of events. not
     
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    They've done plenty....these quazi communist whiners and layabouts are inspiring what will be the biggest ass whipping of an ideology in history....

    and the modern Democrat Party will be the much deserving victim.
     
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    I am a business owner Lady, when I see private small businesses being effected by people such as this....it infuriates me, how about you? Guess not.

    Tell me something, not one can answer these simple questions. Perhaps you can.

    Why do these people think their rights are more important than everyone else's?

    Since when is it ok to set up a tent in a public square and camp out for months on end?

    Why do they call themselves the 99% when they don't even have 50% support?

    What are the authorities afraid of? Who is telling the authorities to lay off?

    When is it acceptable to have a group of people destroying our cities in the name of anything?

    How many murders, rapes, assaults are acceptable to you people?
     
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    I'm glad you're on top of it, Beevee.

    I've got my hands full on this side of the pond. Keep me informed.
     
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    The fact that you are posting about them, Silicon, shows that they've accomplished something.

    You can't pretend they aren't there. You can't pretend nobody cares. You can't pretend nobody sympathizes.

    The OWS movement is a movement. The fact that you don't get what they're accomplishing is more about you and the particular way you view the world.

    The tea party endorsed political candidates. That's one way of getting things done ... but it hasn't worked out very well for their cause, has it? Sure, they got some politicians elected and others booted, but business continues as usual.

    What the OWS people are about is making it clear to the world that an economic system that rewards the 1% at the expense of the 99% is unacceptable to the 99%.

    I think they've done that. But it's an ongoing process. Congratulations -- by making this post, you're part of the process.
     
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    they have to stay there throughout winter to show americans they are serious

    then they will gather more occupiers for spring, hopefully no one perishes from the cold during that time though
     

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