The Fed Audit - Results Are In - Finally!!!!

i'm betting on all of the above.

 

did you read 'the creature from jekyll island'?

you're even claiming that the federal reserve act was written by the money trust

the money trust wrote the aldrich plan (which was rejected by congress) not the glass-owen bill

the federal reserve act was passed to takes control away from the money trust, not benefit them

do you agree with griffin about the discovery of noah's ark on mt judi?

notice which points are the highest and lowest, on the graph

 

Yes. Did you?
For the third time, where does Griffin claim that there is zero difference between the Aldrich Bill and the Glass Owen Bill?

That's because it was.

Repetetive and wrong.

http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/207555-creation-federal-reserve-system.html

Read it.

For the third time, what relevence does this have to the Fed?
Please stop with the Strawman tactics. Stay on topic please.

You didn't answer the question. Your interpretation of the data is distorted to fit your viewpoint.

 

like i said, i read it

who wrote that?

 

What relevence does that have? The sources are cited, so if you have an issue with it, you can debunk the sources. Have fun with that, because 95% of them are first hand sources.

 

it has much relevance, who wrote it?

 

So the name is most important. The information they provide isnt

No wonder you are so easily lied to.

Funny enough when i showed you Alan Greenspan saying that the Federal Reserve is a private entity you scoffed it off as "rhetoric"

So in other words. You believe something. You find information that coddles your beliefs. If one of those same sources says something contrary to your made up world you just blow it off.

Interesting world you live in.

 

what a joke

i'm lied to all the time, but i understand how to verify the veracity of information, knowing the source is one of the keys to that

for example, a source to the article, dr righteous is afraid to name the author of, is "G. Edward Griffin, The Creature from Jekyll Island"

i've known griffin as a peddler of tripe, for several decades

his works, especially 'the creature' have been thoroughly debunked

 

Debunking something is not saying " you dont know what you are talking about".

Griffin's booked has sources listed. I notice you wont even look at those sources.
Why is that? Ahh it doesnt fit your agenda.

 

you're completely wrong again, i've read 'the creature from jekyll island' and checked many of the sources

griffin's film 'the discovery of noah's ark' lists sources too

do you believe that noah's ark is over on mt judi, like he says?

 

Why do you always deflect? This thread has nothing to do with Noahs ark. If you like to talk about the merits or lack there of of that film create a thread to discuss it in.

Noah's ark has nothing to do with the Fed. Thanks for yet again deflecting and trolling.

 

we're discussing g edward griffin's book 'the creature from jekyll island'

besides the fact that ''the creature from jekyll island' has been debunked, demonstrating that his other works have been shown to be false is germane to the discussion

but of course you're afraid to answer the simple question:

do you believe that noah's ark is over on mt judi, like he says?

 

Ok i am 9 mins into the film. He mentions the history of the story which dates back to Sumer. He uses the words "story" and "legend" to describe the idea of the flood and arc.

He has already mentioned 2 people who where found as frauds.

This is 9 mins into a film. He isnt so far pushing an agenda he is stating facts.

So Dujac have YOU actually watched any of the film?

 

i've watched it many times, griffin claims they've discovered noah's ark


Noah’s Ark has been found. Here is the evidence, including photographs. You can visit the site yourself, and you won’t have to climb into a glacier to get there!

Here are the facts. It is in Turkey 17 miles from Mt. Ararat on a gentle slope at the 6000-foot elevation. It is a man-made object and was clearly designed as a boat. It incorporates principles of higher mathematics and advanced hydrodynamics. It contains decks and interior chambers. It is the proper dimension for the Ark. It is in the proper geographical location. It is accompanied by large, anchor stones of an appropriate size. It has been visited by religious pilgrims for thousands of years. It is consistent with the Bible, the Torah, and the ancient clay tablets from Sumer. And it is surrounded by mountains and villages which carry names from antiquity relating to the Ark’s landing.

This program was written and narrated by G. Edward Griffin. It is based upon the book, The Ark of Noah, by David Fasold and includes testimony by Mr. Fasold, author Donald Patten, marine engineer Sam Windsor, and archaeologist Marvin Luckerman.

http://realityzone.com/disofnoahark.html

the above ad is from griffin's own web site, he sells the video for $19.50

what's really funny about that is that david fasold repudiated his own claim about the ark, over 15 years ago, but griffin keeps on selling the book to idiots that want to believe in the garbage he sells

 

Listen to the last 3-4 minutes of the video. He is Christian of course he believes that structure is the Arc. However he also mentions many other things it could have been including a boat but not the Arc.

Overall the entire film is well presented and not very biased. I dont see the issue you have with it.

 

the issue is that griffin lies to sell books, conspiracy theorists wrap their lies up in half-truths so that gullible people like you will think it's true

'the creature from jekyll island' is a plagiarism of eustice mullin's book 'the secrets of the federal reserve'

mullins also wrote "adolf hitler: an appreciation"

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Wow you keep spinning. I'm gullible for realizing a fact like the Federal Reserve is a private entity? Even Alan Greenspan admits it but you STILL refuse to admit it.

You do nothing but deflect man. Just admit it. I am hardly the only one that has noticed this.

 

"besides the fact"?
Is that secret code for "Dujac has not demonstrated the ability to personally counter any specifics of Griffin's Book" ?

I'll give you a hint, "You don't know what you're talking about", doesn't cut it.

 

yep, you're gullible and not alone in that predicament

greenspan most definitely floats questionable rhetoric

the fed banks are private entities with public purposes

he doesn't want to have to educate the under-educated every time he gives an interview, so he oversimplifies

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He admits to lying to not answer questions with his "greenspeak". Not that people wouldnt understand what he is saying.

Try again.

 

you're just demonstrating that you didn't understand what he said

as my previous point asserts



and furthermore, why would anyone use g edward griffin as an information source, when incontrovertible evidence shows that he's promoting and selling dvd's based on a book that says, "Noah’s Ark has been found.", 15 years after the author of the book rebutted it?

http://realityzone.com/disofnoahark.html

 

please list the specific assertions in Griffin's book that you have personally refuted.

 

which book are you talking about?

 

still got nothing ?
Shame, you seem so smart, ........

 

i've got plenty, but i guess you don't have the ability to answer a simple question

"which book are you talking about?"