I rejected Organized Religion all over again today...

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Daggdag, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Judging the physical actions (which includes the speech and writings of another person) of other people is not judging the spiritual being of that person. And, YES, Christians are given the authority to judge 'all things".

    "1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Cr 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
    1Cr 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. "
     
  2. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    You're the one ranting about being found out as hypocrite. Grow up and accept your responsibility for your actions. Like all children you're just trying to turn the argument to your favor when I have proven you wrong beyond the shadow of a doubt because you can't accept the truth of your self that you're a false prophet and misuse the Bible to fulfill your own needs.

    It's rather fun seeing you have a meltdown due to being ousted.

    And I'm sure you'll continue this all the way to doomsday because that's what all children do.

    This has been entertaining.

    It's nice seeing you so mercilessly free of adulthood.
     
  3. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "ousted?!'

    Again you came on here with a vendetta against me (as a buddy of Wolfie) and have fallen short with nothing but accusational insults. You have accomplished nothing but exposing the true hypocrite, being you and your complete lack of civility, full of anger, and lashing out....you, my poor dear person, have degraded yourself..my help was not reqd.

    You are nothing but a hit-and-run character assasin....go back home to Facebook!
     
  4. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm really sorry that I every tried to befriend you....I wont make that mistake again!
     
  5. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    You're the one with a vendetta. You're the one who claims that you and only you have the correct interpretation of the Bible and that millions of people around the world have to bow down before you and obey you. you're just upset because I ousted you.

    And stop it with your lies. I don't use facebook and I don't know anybody named wolfie. That just makes you paranoid too.

    On through the never you must go. Out through the edge of forever.
     
  6. charliedk

    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    you did good Daggdag by making one more guest appearance to church..
    it's always a good reminder of the senseless nonsense of it all..
    I go once a year to make my wife happy..she doesn't even know I'm an atheist and we've been married for 6 years..i prayed that Tebow would lose against the Pats so maybe there is a god? lol..
    rant on all you god believers..I find it entertaining and funny..
     
  7. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me use the words of your good buddy, "Meh"...got it, "hilaris"
     
  8. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    I see no problem showing up for church and being a hypocrit later. It's the showing up and being seen that counts.
     
  9. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    It's so funny he thinks he can insult me by calling me gay. He's unraveling at the seams clinging to that lame insult.

    Grow up Overdrive, and accept the responsibility for your actions.

    Just admit you're wrong and move on. Learn and grow.

    It's really only a child that is incapable of admitting they're wrong when they've been proven wrong.

    You wrongly use the Bible for your own ends, if you're not a believe you shouldn't be using the Bible like you do.

    The Bible is a very important piece of work to many people, and you should allow them to determine its meaning for themselves. Instead of you claiming that you have the monopoly on Bible interpretation.

    You are the one who's inflexible and arrogant. And I've proven that since you continue to rant that I've ousted you and continue to insult me.

    And through your continued tantrums, all you're really doing is entertaining me.

    You are incapable of honest discussion.
     
  10. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    That's 99% of everybody who goes to church anyway, thanks to peer and social pressure to conform.
     
  11. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would be amusing if your werent so pitiful!

    And so you, a 40+ post troll, are going to last on here..how long?

    But by your postings, you already know that you are going to get Banned after the Mods give you some grace and then figure you out....tsk tsk, apparently your mock-Christianity allows lying as the usual Liberal 'the ends justifies the means' ideology.

    You indeed, with your continuous unfounded accusations, have shown what a sad excuse for an honest poster you indeed have represented yourself.

    Google has called you out,

    tram-law, wal-mart backwards means "im gay" in latin

    and you snappily responded with:
    And you think that you have rolled up any credibility on this forum with your folly barrage of inane postings! Pat yourself on your back, nobody else will (except Wolfie) and go fool yourself into believing that you really did anything on this forum today other than 'expose' your agenda of attacking heterosexual Christians...
     
  12. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm done with your disingenuous folly, and will let you get Banned but w/o taking me with you...."hilaris" (must be where they got the root word for 'hilarity)," but I think it would be more appropriate as Latin for 'mean spirited.' Enjoy your brief stay on PF, but I'm done 'playing' with you. "When a wiseman joins a fool in his folly, he becomes as a fool." and I'm not going there w/you...
     
  13. Tram Law

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    You're so funny Overdrive.

    And grow up and stop throwing a temper tantrum because somebody ousted you as a real hypocrite who misuses the Bible for their own ends.
     
  14. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No problemo, gay troll. I'm only on here for a week at a time, and will take another sabbatical, until you get found out and removed from the forum for the troll you are...and thx, I needed a break from the insanity of such as you who hit-and-run this forum and do detract from the Religion section....it's regularly become expected by the civil posters on here.
     
  15. diligent

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    Religion is only for the brain dead. You only have to see how Muslim fanatics use it to 'persuade' young men to be suicide bombers, with a promise of being able to fornicate with an endless line of virgins in the hereafter.Or the RC Church with its endless congo line of paedophile priests.
     
  16. OverDrive

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    I could very easily slice-and-dice you but that would get me Banned! I could have you either going ballistic or crying within 20 posts!

    But I'm not going to step on your sucker 'land mine' that you're baiting me with, but you may proceed with your suicide belt in self-destructing with your plethora of insults, name calling, and disingenuous postings, as you just amuse yourself with your folly......have a good 'Boom!'
     
  17. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately, it seems that too many "Christians" leave the words of Christ behind when they leave their church building. Many Christians are the most judgemental, narrow minded and unforgiving people on earth!
     
  18. Tram Law

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    Not just Christians, anybody who is self-righteous and can only see their own standards they expect everybody else but themselves to obey.
     
  19. Neutral

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    So, its not hypocritical in the slightest to be running around hurling insults, making pointed personal shots directly at a poster, for daring to stand up to you?

    In a single day you display such anger? Such vehemence against Christians in general? And once again, atheists pat 'em on the back?

    And no, posters here will not simply ignore you - they will report you. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the rules here at PF. That one was way out of line - and if you cannot control your temper, perhaps a debate forum is just not for you.
     
  20. Tram Law

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    Yes it is, when one claims to believe in civility, which he clearly claimed to believe in, then you must be civil at all times, even if somebody is being rude and crude to you. If you claim to believe in a certain rule, then you must hold yourself to the same rules to demand everybody else obey.

    He didn't do any of that.

    He also claimed to be the sole monitor of people's behavior and will correct anybody whom he deems violates his rules.

    So I challenged him and he fell apart.

    He didn't obey his own rules he claimed he believed in, that's what makes him a hypocrite.

    If you believe in tolerance, you tolerate other people and allow them to express themselves in their own ways, even if they have an unfortunate way of expressing their opinions, or in an unpopular way, and towards both atheists and Christians, not just Christians or atheists. You don't get to pick and choose, but all self righteous people do. Every single one of them pick and choose who they want to tolerate, and that is not tolerance.

    Note, I do not believe in tolerance. Tolerance is nothing more than a sham to me.

    But if people claim to be self righteous, as he did, I will challenge them.

    You can call it trolling all you want.

    All self righteous people always fall apart when they are challenged on their own terms. Every single one of them.

    If he was civil to me instead of getting upset and insulting me, I wouldn't have carried it as long as I did and would've dropped it and probably would've apologized to me.

    But all self righteous people will do is end up resorting to insulting other people back if they are challenged in any way shape or form.

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    And I do not believe in being non Judgmental either, because that too is a sham. Just like tolerance. I am and will continue to be a highly Judgmental person.
     
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    You broke your promise to your grandmother because attending one service and judging Christianity by the words of a few people is not really trying.

    Anyway, if you liked what the preacher said why do you ignore what he said? You are just as guilty of judging as the people you condemn for judging.
     
  22. Sadanie

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    I totally agree!

    It is just more common to find self-righteous fundamental Christians.
     
  23. montra

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    But isn't someone calling another self righteous....well....self righteous?

    Why is it Christians are the only ones labeled as such when really everyone does it? It is because they use the "G" word that they somehow are lesser people?
     
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    No, not everyone, although it can certainly seem that way.

    And no, it certainly isn't Christians alone. For example, liberals are often self righteous jerks as well.

    They always talk a good game of tolerance, but use a word like girl they go nuts because a person who uses that word girl is somehow oppressing and initializing all women (or females) everywhere and so the word must never be used again or the person who used it is a misogynist, or they use lots of other insults. And that is not tolerance itself either just self righteous jerking off.

    There are many other examples of liberal self righteousness too, as well as lots of other forms of political self righteousness.
     
  25. montra

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    Let me clarify, anytime you take a moral position you become self righteous, UNLESS you take the position that a higher authority says you are wrong. For example, if you break the law of the land you can say that you have transpressed against the state. Or if you are a person of faith and believe God has commanded us certain things you can say that they have transgressed against God. However, to say you THINK someone is being immoral without referencing a higher authority has sutomatically become self righteous.

    The kicker is that I believe we were all wired with a moral code, so we all do it even though we may not know by what authority we speak or even if we get out wires crossed and incorrectly pass out judgement. I will admit though that those of religion are often more sure of themselves than those who are not at times for good or for bad. For this I think they are attacked more frequently.
     

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