I rejected Organized Religion all over again today...

Not at all......It's a very evangelical, babtisty church, if that helps....

 

Fanatics in general....not just Muslims.....

 

I'm not so sure, to me having a moral code is not the same as self righteousness. Self righteousness is demanding that everybody lives according to your moral code, and derived from a sense that one's beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.

Having your own moral code and living by it is not the same.

 

Killing all non Chistians? Well, I find that hard to believe.

 

As do I. But its want they want believe.

Quantrill

 

Don't be so silly. People like Quantrill were born again, perfect in every way. Have some respect!

 

Second guessing God is a bad business.

I have sometimes wondered... if God made man in his image, perhaps he made gay people as well..

In any event how can we judge them?

 

Not 'were'. 'are'.

Quantrill

 

Wonderful that you can write while it is going on! Hope it's soon over and you can begin to grow up and learn! It's the size of the head that causes the major difficulty, so I believe!

 

I saw a man using a counterfeit $20 the other day. I am going to give up on using the American currency and revert to bartering.

 

I am saddened that you allow a disagreement in beliefs to determine who you are and not "friends" with.

I am dating a young Christian woman, what does that say?

 

That you have taken a fancy to a young woman. Good luck. I can't see what that has to do with anything, though. I am not friends, for instance, with murderers. Is that a prejudice? I don't know: we don't have that many, because we ban guns.

 

I am not weaseling out of anything. I am dismissing the notion that the only way to a better place after this life is by worship through faith. I disagree. I find the betterment of other people in this world to be a more convincing mode of "grace".

As I have said before, using you logic Hitler may have accepted Jesus (... well... I do believe he was a Catholic.... but we will use for the sake of argument) as his savior a moment before chomping the pill and pulling the trigger, and be in heaven. Of course the six million Jews he killed are roasting in hell for not accepting Jesus. And all those secular humanitarians also suffer eternal punishment as well.

So no, I am not weaseling. I am not dodging. I am outright dismissing something that makes absolutely no sense.

 

My point being, OD is going on and on about the mistake of befriending me.... for a difference in beliefs?

I suppose I have a somewhat more open mind.

 

One post isnt "On & on."

Just to let you know, I have no one on my "Ignore" list to date but will add your name and your character assassin friend's name. Putting up with name calling, false & distorted accusations, and disingenuous postings tend to put me 'in the flesh,' and so I will not join in with further personal attacks.

 

lol

That is amusing.

 

Oh ah - he knows what 'God says', right? Got a hearing aid of a special kind, costs a packet. Funny lot, aren't they?

 

Essentially, and his way is the only way.

At least I am open to the idea that I may be wrong.

 

We know what God says because its in the Bible.

Funny, reading comprehension is apparently beyond the discerning abilities of atheists? That is not something I would be proud to announce? Oh well, guess we'll chalk that one up to a difference in beliefs.

While we are at it, the fact of Wolfie's toxic personality was discussed in another thread, and the extending a hand of friendship to someone enraptured in anger and accusations is risky at best.

OD disagreed with my recommendation of caution in light of the embodiment of anger and irrationality so regularly displayed by Wolfie. She disagreed and defended Wolfie and his actions - and now, just as he has done with so many others of a different faith choice, even those who defend him, he turns on them.

Of course, he is the victim?

As always.

He's just a very angry young man - nothing more, and nothing special about that. If anyone is intolerant, it would be teh young man hurling accusations of rape and genocide in defiance of simply courtesy and common sense.

Not surprisingly, more and more people are finding that behavior ... unacceptable.

We call this consequence - not persecution or rejection.

Or do your beliefs compell you to hug the people who call you rapist?

 

THat you are horny.

Did you tell her you think she is rapist and genocidal maniac yet? I'll bet that one goes over well.

We call this chameleon. It is, as always, about what you want - and funny of funny - yoru choices are just a bat to hit other people with.

Well, you are horny. Congrats. Not sure how that makes you a 'better' person?

BTW - I think we just got our honest answer about why Wolfie wants to go strum his guitar in a church.

 

As you know, many Christians and most Americans choose very carefully which bits of the Bible they take notice of, leaving out almost all that Jesus said and the early Church did in favour of the Old Testament and Revelations.

 

So do atheists.

the only real difference is that most Christians are actually attempting to come outside of their comfort zone and make themselves into better people.

In sharp contrast to the atheists I see, who seem to enjoy being good people by finding fault in others - as if this eliminates there own sin?

So tell me lolo, why are you full of (*)(*)(*)(*) for some random Christians that might be less than perfect, but you will take the side of an overtly abusive atheist?

Do you think running around calling people rapists and genocidal maniacs is a good thing? Well, what does that the fact that some Christians are bad have to do with that?

Atheists are no better than the worst of Christians based solely on their faith choice. The idea that only Christians need accountability?

"Meh"

 

I think all these time-travel imitations of Aquinas, Calvin and Huxley are a bore, frankly. The job is to restate in terms of our own time what the early Christians meant, not to pretend we are people who died long since.

 

No offense, but what kind of wierd Christian group does your grandmother belong to? Is it the Christian Identity Movement?

 

No. . . the use of the "G" word doesn't make anyone a lesser person. . .it also doesn't make anyone a BETTER person.

And that is where the self-righteousness comes from. . . a type of "Christian exceptionalism!" (self-anointed, of course!)

And obviously my statement is my opinion only. It is not the word of "G"!