Unarmed Kid Killed (part 5)

It is a fact. That is why Zimmerman is a free man for now.


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I should buy a lottery ticket. Feeling pretty prophetic atm.

 

How so? Have the toxicology tests come back?

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I don't think Wheeler actually believes Zimmerman sounded intoxicated. He used that to prop up the fact the Sanford PD did not follow standard protocol for a shooting. It helps prove they gave Zimmerman preferential treatment right after he killed an unarmed 17 year old. You have to learn to read between lines in public discourse to catch his point. He could come back say he was wrong about the speculation of intoxication but it does nothing to change the fact Zimmerman was given the benefit of the doubt within minutes of shooting and killing someone.

 

Because it was expunged so it is as if it never existed, he was not prosecuted in the first place.

 

You aren't making sense. Zimmerman had blood on his face and the back of his head according to the media reports.

 

Very well put CE.

The only reason this incident has gained so much attention, is because of the race/class element. Black victim, 'white' perpetrator,... 'gated' community. If it were white on white, or black on black, in some nondescript neighborhood, this story would not have been so news worthy.

It's strange though. Anyone who points these things out, is suddenly "obsessed with race and skin color". That's a pretty neat trick! Because again, initially it was the media and those who are making such a stink about this case that made a BFD out of the racial/class element in the first place. That is what's feeding this case.

It's without a doubt unfortunate that a young man died. Zimmerman is not off the hook yet, consequential people are still looking into this case. As I said earlier in the thread, Zimmerman is not going to get away with "killing an unarmed black kid" if it can be shown that he was wrong in doing so. The evidence available to us only leads to speculation, in a state where it's legal to 'stand your ground', and that's why nothing has yet happened. Again though, it's not over. If undeniable proof is presented (maybe less than) Zimmerman will go to jail like everyone else.

 

Where did you read that he interrogated Martin????

Provide the media link, or you are just making it up.


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We had enough circumstantial evidence to draw the conclusion and the recorded calls prove we were 100% correct. You were just trolling whining trying to find every which way to say we were wrong and it was proven you were flat out wrong on every angle.

Keep ignoring circumstantial evidence and making a fool of yourself.

 

No and no. The police and the prosecutors office say that there is no PC to arrest Zimmerman. You lose.

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You haven't learned a thing, have you? I will tell you right now what Zimmerman's statement is going to say before it is publicly released based on the evidence so far. He is going to say he......

Pursued Trayvon just to give an address for the cops but Trayvon noticed he was following him again and asked why Zimmerman was following him. Zimmerman will SAY he "politely" asked Trayvon if he lived there. Trayvon became indignant and took a swing at Zimmerman and Zimmerman fought back, Trayvon knocked him down and Zimmerman shot in self defense.

I have no problem having my prediction recorded on the thread so that if I am wrong it will be proven when his statement his released. Zimmerman had no legal authority to invade Trayvon's space and ask him where he lived or anything about him. That was an interrogation and we know from Zimmerman's recorded call the purpose was hostile as he viewed Trayvon as an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and said they always get away. This is what disqualifed him from SYG.

 

LOL!! You think this pathetic attempt at moving the goal posts will fly? We were talking about the fact we said Zimmerman pursued Trayvon and you kept whining we had no evidence. Once again, we had enough circumstantial evidence to conclude Zimmerman got out of his car and chased him and now that is proven with Zimmerman's own recorded voice you want to forget all of your whiny mistakes.......hahahahaha......

 

Then let's detail it out shall we?

Fact 1 - Martin was walking on the sidewalk returning from the nearby 7-11 to finish watching the NBA all-star game
Fact 2 - Zimmerman saw Martin and thought he was suspicious
Fact 3 - Martin saw Zimmerman and ran away
Fact 4 - Zimmerman followed (contrary to the dispatchers request)
Fact 5 - A confrontation ensued which resulted in Zimmerman having a bloody nose and a cut on his head
Fact 6 - Martin is dead
Fact 7 - We don't know who started the altercation.
Fact 8 - Martin has no history of violence, Zimmerman does

Now which fact points to Martin being the aggressor? I don't see any facts that point in that direction.

 

Which is why they are under fire now.

 

I'm not sure that is accurate for a couple of reasons. The most obvious being it took a while for this to become national attention. It really did not make national headlines until two weeks after the shooting. The day of the Sanford PD press conference there was only one national news channel I aware of that carried it live and that was HLN. I flipped through the other outlets and that was the only station I found covering it.

The other reason is the circumstances are very unique due to the two parties never having any interaction prior to the shooting.

 

He pleaded it out and it was on his record. That is how the local Orlando news outlet found out. They searched the public criminal database and found George Zimmerman. If the cops had followed procedure they would have found out the exact same thing.

Imagine you are Tracy Martin. It has been two days since you learned your son was killed in a bizarre and mysterious situation. The cops come to your home and tell you one reason Zimmerman has not been arrested is because he had a "squeaky clean" record. Then you find out from a local news outlet that by golly, Zimmerman had been arrested for assault.

Think about it.

 

You are having trouble keeping up with the conversation but the main problem is your repeated "being beaten to death" or "being beaten bloody" or any other of your ridiculous hyperbolic statements trying to find some way to dance on Trayvon's grave.

You are disgusting for what you are doing by trying to claim you just want the "facts" while at every possible turn trying to make it sound like Trayvon was actually killing Zimmerman.

 

Come to think about it, had the cops run Zimmerman's background an assault arrest would have been sufficient for probable cause and they could have arrested him that night and he would be in jail right now as the investigations were happening. They could have charged him with manslaughter and avoided looking like the complete fools they have proven to be.

Here is another question I have not seen asked: other than the gunshot, did Trayvon have any abrasions on his face? People have been acting like that gunshot was the only physical damage done to Trayvon so what happens if the autopsy is released and says he was hit in the face or body? Oh I know some pacodons will claim it proves nothing but for the honest among us it would further doubt the self defense claim.

It has been my position that since the can of tea and skittles were in his pockets that there wasn't much of a physical altercation and I suspect Zimmerman slipped and fell in the wet grass while trying to detain Trayvon. I'm also betting the autopsy will not show abrasions on Trayvon's knuckles consistent with punching someone. Zimmerman probably got his bloody nose while on the ground trying to hold Trayvon and Trayvon kicked him while trying to get away.

On the recorded calls, the screaming we are hearing is Trayvon on the ground trying to get away from Zimmerman. He was succeeding so Zimmerman pulled out his gun and shot him.

This scenario fits the recorded calls, Zimmerman's motives, and the first eyewitnesses who saw them after the shooting.

 

You are not very good at this. There are probably 50 murders a day in the United States...and you for some odd reason have harped, and harped, and harped on this one.

I am certain everyone reading the endless threads on this incident, know what that reason is.

 

What does a 28 year old man sound like? Both men were well past puberty. I heard Zimmerman's voice this morning and it sounds like he was the one screaming on the 911 call.

 

Your speculation is meaningless. That's another fact for this tread.



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Correct again. It was the same for the Bart Police incident, and a few other incidents with similar themes.

 

It's easier to ignore the contents of a post by not quoting it at all.

 

That one happened to be caught on video so it was a rare case of a cop murdering an unarmed suspect on video. But don't let facts slow down your agenda.....

 

Trayvon was well past puberty? How do you know this? Considering he was 6"3 and weighed 140 pounds I would say it's obvious he was still in puberty.

The recorded screaming shows the one screaming was cut off mid-word. If it was Zimmerman he would not have cut himself off mid-word but someone screaming for help who got shot would have no choice when his scream would stop.