Unarmed Kid Murdered (Part 10)

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  1. SkyStryker

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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The way I see it, neither Martin nor Zimmerman have very suspect pasts so anyone riding that angle is just trying to buttress a position that they've already staked out.

    I keep seeing claims here that Zimmerman "has a proven violent history", yet I still haven't come across any news articles that state Zimmerman was ever convicted of any violent crime. As for Martin, shooting your mouth off and being in possession of a baggie that may have had weed in it sometime in the past means absolutely nothing as far as this case is concerned.
     
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    Wow. So people without convictions for violent actions don't have a violent history? What about all those boxers who punch each other? Are they baking cookies? What about those in the military or combat Vets? They never engaged in violence either?

    There are enough facts to prove Z's guilt without looking at him before February 26th. However, take these facts into account:

    He was fired from a security company for abusing his power.

    Neighbors complained he was too aggressive.

    He was arrested for assault and he was guilty but he participated in a Pre- trial Diversion Program to avoid an actual conviction.

    He called Trayvon an "ass (hole)" for no reason and said they always get away. What did Trayvon DO to warrant that mindset in Z?

    He always carried his gun and even to HOA meetings where the biggest danger was smelling farts.
     
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    Has anyone seen this?

    The press release originally said police would arrest journalists who attempt to make contact with
    city employees during non-working hours. They asked to not approach, call or email the city employees at home.

    "Law enforcement officials will not hesitate to make an arrest for stalking," it said.

    SPD backing off after harsh criticism does not change the fact they would arrest reporters for "stalking" while investigating a shooting but they had no problem not arresting Z for stalking. It's beyond disgusting.....
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/29/2720590/sanford-police-threaten-to-arrest.html
     
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    So he was arrested for something but never convicted, some of his neighbors supposedly bad-mouthed him, he called someone a crude name, and he carried a firearm legally and you take that to mean that he has a "PROVEN VIOLENT history"...

    Give me a break. Your credibility is shot.
     
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    You ignored the fact he was guilty of the assault. He avoided a conviction by the Pre- trial Diversion program. You completely ignored the fact he was fired from a security company for abusing his power. I pointed out he carried his gun obsessively because it shows his desire to exert power over others.

    In addition to what I have already presented, one neighbor implied Z's guilt by saying he was frustrated and the situation was the perfect storm and Z was fed up.

    That falls right in line with his former coworker of the security company who said Z loved the power and was like Jekyll and Hyde and would snap.

    But hey, if you think you ignoring half the evidence means my credibility is shot.......lol......people like you are a soap box joke. And you know it.
     
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    It's very telling that the neo-cons have given up talking about the law of self-defense. Now they just talk about race.
     
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    Oh great, you throw out more BS. You're only speculating yet you call it "fact". You have no idea if he was guilty of assault, you're just assuming. That he got bad-mouthed by some anonymous former co-worker, again, doesn't mean that he has a "violent history" anymore than someone saying Martin had a drug laced baggie makes him a junkie.

    In short, if there were a lynch mob forming in your town, you'd be the guy handing out the pitchforks. You should be ashamed, but I know that you're not.
     
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    No I am not speculating. Innocent people don't do Pre Trial Diversion to avoid a conviction. If you are innocent you take it to court to found not guilty. If you are guilty you use Pre Trial Diversion to avoid an actual conviction. Once again you talk out of your ass because you are too arrogant to learn anything.

    It's pathetic you try to deny the glaring pattern found in Z's behavior. We know he was arrested for assault and avoided a conviction only by Pre Trial Diversion (probably with help from daddy since it was a violent crime), he was fired for abusing his role of a security guard, and has friends, neighbors, and ex coworkers pointing out his aggressive behavior but you put all that together and stuff it where the sun won't shine so you won't have to address it.

    Why do people like you even bother posting? If you aren't going to engage in honest dialogue then stop wasting the space....
     
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    BS. You're naivety is showing. You're now backing up your speculation with even more speculation...unless you can somehow prove that an innocent person has never taken a diversion to avoid going to trial.

    Repeating yourself doesn't make it any more credible. You only have speculation, assumptions, and the word of anonymous sources. Put the pitchfork down and let the real investigators handle it.
     
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    Most of them are pure butt juice quality because they work harder at ignoring the known facts versus simply addressing them. They make false accusations of racism without realizing how stupid they look.
     
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    so this expert is really only ~50% sure whether or not it's Zimmerman or Trayvon....


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    so what was the percentage that it was Trayvon?


    if they didn't analyze his voice.... then they're sitting at what, 52% match that it's him.... yet the 90% goal required for Zimmerman isn't needed for Trayvon.... very convienient.


    Sounds like your expert witness really can't confirm nor deny it's Zimmerman. Luckily, for Americans, you can't get convictions off of 50% sure....


    Beyond a shadow of a doubt
     
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    Dude. Seriously. SERIOUSLY. Please stop embarrassing your self and learn how voice ID operates. The 48% match means there is more than a 90% chance it is not Z. That means Z was not the one screaming on the recorded call.
     
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    Well, 48% from a nobody is not 90%, even for us math challanged. :spin::spin::spin:
     
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    I don't think so but at least us "RWs" have a life outside this forum. Our heads are not exploding either like the Left Wing :boo::boo: Noise Machine.
     
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    Owen is an expert more than qualified and has a proven track record. Keep ignoring the evidence that crushes your Z dreams....

    Where is that link with a video of Tracy Martin saying it wasn't his son screaming for help.
     
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    he's an expert says the left....
     
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    You have to love how desperate the racist left is to convict this guy before all the evidence comes out.
     
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    If it wasn't for the left, you wouldn't have heard about this story at all.
     
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    His qualifications are readily available and the fact you claimed his test showed there is a 52% chance it was Martin screaming really just proves you have absolutely not a single prayer shred of a clue what you are talking about. You can't even grasp the test results because you are too ignorant on voice ID but you are somehow qualified to say Owen isn't an expert??????
     
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    The totality of the evidence proves Z's guilt and I am glad that racist ass bag has lost his life as he knew it. Trayvon had to feel that fear for a few moments but this ass cap has to live with it everyday for murdering an unarmed person. I just pray he doesn't commit suicide because he needs to suffer every single day for quite a while.

    Your idiotic mantra of repeatedly lying about what I posted is what shows YOUR desperation. You actually tried to accuse someone of being racist became that person used name, appearance, and voice to identify a race. What did you say about race? That people can just self identify???? Lol....you said that crap because I set you straight.
     
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    The left ignored this story for at least two weeks. We only know about it because Trayvon's parents refused to give up.
     

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