REPUBLICANS... Put up or Shut up! Stay at home mother Bill in the works...

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  1. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...ve-all-mothers-the-same-choice-Ann-Romney-had

    Now that Republicans have flip-flopped on their decades-long denigration of mothers and decided that staying at home to raise children is work—or at least, it's work when Ann Romney does it; poor mothers, not so much—House Democrats are telling them to put their money where their mouth is. Ryan Grim at Huffington Post reports:

    A handful of House Democrats, encouraged by the recent bipartisan agreement that stay-at-home moms should be considered just as hard working as anyone in the workforce, will introduce legislation to apply that standard to mothers on welfare as well.
    Under current law, raising children does not count toward the required "work activity" that must be performed by recipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, the federal program that emerged from the 1996 welfare reform. Some states make an exception for mothers with children less than a year old.

    The Woman's Option to Raise Kids (WORK) Act, a copy of which was provided to HuffPost in advance of its introduction, would allow mothers with children ages 3 and under to stay at home with their children and continue receiving benefits.

    “No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.”

    Under the WORK Act, however, mothers whose husbands don't have profitable stock portfolios to support them, but who also think it's important to "stay home with the children" and would be delighted to do so, would have to return to the work force when their child turns four. Still, such legislation would be a much-needed step in the right direction.


    This is funny because I was listening to some of my “talk radio” shows last night (one Republican – the other Democrat) and an interesting point came up (which will be in a new thread) about how Republicans just don’t care…. They can have someone say something they have LONG been against, but as long as their Republican, they will rally behind them… as in this case since “stay at home mothers” were frowned upon by Republicans since the beginning of their Southern Reign!
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I was right... They talk a big game and when it comes time to come clean - they run like roaches....

    Nobody has anything to say? Not one Republican?
     
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    Well that would be one way to make the unemployment numbers look better. Count welfare moms as "employed"
     
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    Good soundbyte which will rally the base....


    ...who wont stop to think why "3" is somehow a legitimate cutoff point. Why 3? Seems like political buzz to me.
     
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    If welfare moms want to support themselves like the Romney's, who are we to stand in the way? Cut them all off, and they will close their legs.


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    When the cow claims the mouse turd sticks up the barn - what more can be said?
     
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    let's see - my wife was telling me that Communist Hungary allowed women to stay home with the kids (with 80% wages) until the kid was three.
    They also had their own version of ObamaCare too!
     
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    When you work for someone, that someone is able to see if you are actually working. If this is to be a law, fine, but somehow those on the receiving end (getting paid to be a stay at home mom) must prove they are keeping the house clean, feeding the children proper meals, helping with their homework and all the things mothers do. No "drinking on the job either", that isn't acceptable, nor taking any drugs. How will this work or is the plan simply to try to make a fool of Romney? I think it's the latter.
     
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    Why are so many American's desperate to follow FAILED Soviet methods that even they have abandoned?

    American used to be the LEADER of freedom - no one leads by following
     
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    Why do children want to be different than their parents? Yes, we use to be the leader of the free world but our leader bows to everyone else and apologizes to everyone for things that were done long ago. He is trying to break the back of democracy like any decent communist.
     
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    I didn't realize that I could get pregnant all by myself just by opening and shutting my legs. I'll have to try that sometime.

    And by the way...Romney's wife is not supporting herself, so you must mean supporting yourself by marrying a rich man. Ahhhh, if we could but all do that.
     
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    All it takes is keep those legs closed ... and never worry about being pregnant ... and may find more respectful men in your life as well!
     
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    Strange how until only recently one person could support a family and now you have to be "rich"......
     
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    Wow, the Democrats are petty.

    So, b/c stay at home moms are hard working, they now need benefits covered till their child is age 4?????

    So Democrats have fallen off the cliff and see this as a chance for welfare queens to get more welfare????....lol.

    Anybody else find this totally deranged?.....lol
     
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    LOOK - my wife came here as a political refugee from Communist Hungary ... this is stuff that Soviet Satellite countries were doing 35 years ago.
    Just another spoke in the wheel to prove the left are rolling more and more Commie bound
     
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    It would be awesome if people didn't assume about others. I could be a church going Catholic whose been with the same person my entire life. I could have stayed home to raise my kids then entered back into the workforce so that I could defend poor people who don't have the means or werewithal to defend themselves. I could have 3 degrees, 2 of which from Ivy League and/or Jesuit schools...and happen to have more empathy than a lot of the people who talk big game and just eek on (*)(*)(*)(*) by in life.

    In fact, I could be someone who came from the worst ghetto in the country and now have 3 degrees on scholarship and yet still understand that what it takes to get out of the ghetto is 1) a high IQ, 2) looks good enough to attract a rich man, or 3) basketball skills.

    Maybe unlike many of you I know that there are only 2 need based academic scholarships for poor kids per county. Two. Maybe I know that without two parents earning middle class income those other A/B students/kids can't get student loans because they have no credit history and no job prospects. So they must pay per class on McDonald's salaries because the city's auto industry went to Mexico. Now, back in the dark ages before taxes were taken out maybe this was easier, but nowmost of these kids don't have even enough to assist their parents with rent and pay for one community college class until they've sat out of school for a year and then...the momentum is lost and what study habits they had are gone the way of the dodo.

    So, welfare moms...yeh...they were probably also children of the system that all yall think is so easy to get out of and very few of you have accomplished anything that hard in your entire lives. You have no idea what seeing burnt out houses does to a child's hope. You have no idea what its like for those kids to be students with a B+ average and knowing that if you were a suburban kid you'd have a shot at college but you don't because you're an inner city kid. You have no idea how hard it is for girls to grow up in an environment that would make Kabul or Tikrit look safe or how about half of those mothers that you despise so much from your suburban perch got there because they were raped and assaulted. I'd like one of you to live on a street that looked like this...DEAD...and then tell me about how you'd be sooooooo different than these welfare moms.

    detroit.jpg
     
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    It's a stupid idea.

    As others have pointed out just the latest advance of the welfare state.
     
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    This just demonstrates that Democrats don't understand how the world works. They don't understand that this bill would act as an incentive to have more children. Just what welfare mothers need.
     
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    No. Many of you don't know how that world works. You look at what you went through and think it was somehow worse than being 12 years old trying to study with guns going off in your neighborhood. You think that you know what its like to wake up with a burglar in your house. You think you know what it's like to be told that the best you can hope for is that some state school will have mercy on you because there's only 2 tickets out of town and they'll go to other kids at a better school. You have no idea what having zero hope does.

    If you want to know what Hell is like go to Detroit or Flint. These people aren't looking for handouts. They are looking for love. They're not getting knocked up because they want to get paid. MOST of these women are getting knocked up because they're depressed, lonely, and scared.

    When I hear people like all of you talk like you KNOW the score it makes me mad enough to punch holes through my keyboard with my fingers because these women are my FRIENDS. I knew so many of them when they were 11 and 12. I know what they wanted out of life and I know what happened to mold them. I know they wanted better.

    I can't wait for all of you to meet Jesus....Take the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing beam out of your eye before you even think to pluck out their splinters.
     
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    DBM quotes the Daily Kos and it runs three pages. Hard to believe but some people like to play in poop.
     
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    I understand that you are sensitive to their plight but that doesn't change the fact that paying people to have children will result in an incentive to have more children.

    It is how the real world works. Now, your public display of caring and over-dramatization may make you feel like you are a more caring person, but it doesn't change reality.
     
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    YOU think it's an over-dramatization which really proves my point. You have no idea. You call the truth of my existence an over-dramatization, but the fact that you've decided the truths of other people is somehow not drama? What is drama if not a play, a staged event, something unreal to entertain? You don't want reality. You want the Republican fantasy of that reality.

    It's my trigger. Just like alcoholics have triggers during the holidays. I go bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy when I hear people act like they know what's going on with "welfare" mothers because they saw some Fox special where the media picked the lowest POS to follow around for a day. It would be like if we plucked one of the Marines who went crazy in Haditha and said: Yep, that's the whole Corps.
     
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    You are the one using blanket stereotypes and assuming you know who I am (which you don't). Also, assuming that I am a Republican.

    You won't debate the reality of my post, you just want to call people names.
     
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    didn't Communist Hungary go bankrupt?
     
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