Zimmerman Case Is An Attack On Our Civil Rights

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  1. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Not in defense while getting your nose and head bashed in.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is utter poppycock.

    First of all calling for justice doesn't reflect hatred of Zimmerman. Personally I feel sorry for him. I'm quite sure that he had good intentions but through his ignorance and wrongful actions a tragity has occurred. He was NOT a security guard for the neighborhood as some like to state. He was a neighborhood watch member and a neighborhood watch members is not security guard. When Zimmerman called 911 his role and responsibilities as a neighborhood watch member were fulfilled. He should not have assumed the role of vigilante law enforcement.

    Zimmerman was armed and yet he didn't understand that with the Right to carry firearms also comes responsibility. I'm an avid supporter of the 2nd Amendment but I also understand that it isn't a "license to kill" and Zimmerman didn't understand that fact. A private citizen carrying a firearm should never take any action which would intimidate another person or that would lead to a confrontation such as occurred that night.

    Martin was certainly no hero. He was a young kid that had made mistakes in his past just like all of us made mistakes in the past. Just a normal high school kid. Nothing special about him at all. The only thing special at all is that he's dead because another person provoked a confrontation that should never have happened. He was the victim of ignorant prejudice. Martin is no different from anyone else that is a victim of ignorant racial prejudice. That doesn't make him a hero... it just makes him dead.

    As for Zimmerman being a hero for anyone they must certainly have very low standards. Zimmerman was unquestionably an ignorant racist bigot which is reflected by both his recorded conversation with the 911 dispatcher but also by also by his 2005 MySpace page. On that page he called all Mexicans "soft ass wanna be thugs" along with calling his ex-girlfriend "The ex hoe" and showed complete distain for the law after he was arrested and charged for assaulting a police officer when he stated, "2 felonies dropped to 1 misdemeanor!!!!!!!!!!!"

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...-trayvon-martin-shooter-called-180717152.html

    Anyone that considers George Zimmerman as a hero has a really distorted view of what a hero is. George Zimmerman is an ignorant racist bigot that distained the law and because of his ignorance and prejudice a young black man that was doing nothing wrong is now dead. If anything he's the current poster child for racism in America today.

    But his case isn't about racism. It's about murder and that is what he's being prosecuted for. His civil rights have not been violated and he's receiving every legal right to due process under the law and the US Constitution.
     
  3. Octagon

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    It just amazes me that so much media attention is put on the Zimmerman case and nothing about the Witchata Horror story or the Memphis killings of two young white people by Blacks. Both were barely reported on most senior news stations and if you read it this was not just killings but torture in the worst way. The Marquee Desade couldn't have done any worse to those kids then those low life minorty basterds did.
     
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    I'm getting so tired of hearing about the Zimmerman case and the media attention it's getting, "WICHITA MASSACRE", "MEMPHIS HORROR" look it up and see where Blacks killed and tortured these young white kids, screw Trayvon.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

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    What a load of crap.

    superhero: stop banging my head in the ground, punching me in the face and reaching for my gun to kill me
    violent thug: shut up you (*)(*)(*)(*)er you going to die tonight
    superhero: im going to shoot you in self defense
    violent thug: you aint no security guard I call foul
    superhero: see kids, dead thugs are safe thugs.
     
  6. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Yes, I agree that the above is a load of crap.

    Here are the facts related to this thread.

    A special prosecutor reviewed the evidence related to the death of Trayvon Martin and filed 2nd Degree murder charges against George Zimmerman. That evidence to support the criminal charge has been reviewed by two different judges and both agreed that the evidence supported the criminal charges.

    George Zimmerman's civil rights have not been violated and he is receiving every protection afforded to anyone accused of a crime in the United States under the US Constitution and the laws of the United States and Florida. Any claims to the contrary are false.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Yes, I agree that the above is a load of crap.

    Here are the facts related to this thread.

    A special prosecutor reviewed the evidence related to the death of Trayvon Martin and filed 2nd Degree murder charges against George Zimmerman. That evidence to support the criminal charge has been reviewed by two different judges and both agreed that the evidence supported the criminal charges.

    George Zimmerman's civil rights have not been violated and he is receiving every protection afforded to anyone accused of a crime in the United States under the US Constitution and the laws of the United States and Florida. Any claims to the contrary are false.
     
  8. protectionist

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    NO, people have NOT presented ANY valid arguments that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense, and that includes YOU. So if you think YOU have a valid argument let's hear it. NOW.
     
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    No typo. Just a correct statement. You want to challenge it ? Go ahead.
     
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    No you don't agree, because I didn't say it was the detective who should have made the call. And at the risk of offending your thin skin, I'll say that you should not go around trying to put words in my mouth. Maybe you could get an infraction for that, you think ?

    What is highly "irregular" is that a person who acted in self-defense (confirmed by 2 eyewitnesses), AND who ALSO had the right to shoot his attackers by virtue of the concealed weapons law (which allows him to shoot someone commiting a forcible felony ( Under Section 776.012, Florida Statutes (Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” Law), a person is justified in using deadly force (and does not have a duty to retreat) if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony, or to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another) is arrested, when he was in conformance with the law.

    We certainly do know "who saw what'. Two eyewitnesses ("John" remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, and a 13 year old boy mamed Austin Brown - they both confirmed Z's story to the police.

    NO, it is not "moot". The judges never should have been part of the case. It should have stopped at the police HQ, because of INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, period.
     
  11. protectionist

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    If youcan get your head out of the 1950's for a minute you could maybe realize that what the witnesses saw was ENOUGH to constitute INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE to arrest Zimmerman. You are obviously very biased. Going to go out to join the lynch mob, any time soon ?
     
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    Here's a little bit of the LAW so you might start to know what the hell you're talking about:

    Under Section 776.012, Florida Statutes (Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” Law), a person is justified in using deadly force (and does not have a duty to retreat) if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony, or to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another.

    GET IT ?

    http://www.husseinandwebber.com/florida-law-self-defense-use-of-force.html
     
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    UTTER NONSENSE ! EVERY BIT OF IT.:disbelief:
     

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