Obama: 'I think same sex couples should be able to get married'. Impact on election?

Ya that doesn't quite add up to me either. Can't be both a move that's obviously going to cost him votes, and a calculated tactic to win an election.

 

So you have no Idea about Kerry? I am using an analogy.

I take it you also did not know Obama's many stands on gay marriage

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archive...r-same-sex-marriage-before-he-was-against-it/

 

So you have no Idea about Kerry? I am using an analogy.

I take it you also did not know Obama's many stands on gay marriage

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archive...r-same-sex-marriage-before-he-was-against-it/

 

You are funny. Obama is about campaign money and votes nothing more.

Lets see over 30 states have voted marriage is one man and one woman yet you believe those polls

 

I know about John Kerry what does a man who completely did a 180 on the Iraq war have to do with a man who has been in favor of civil unions or gay marriage his entire career. It's not a 180 degree turn it's not even a 90 degree turn. It's more like a lane change.

 

flip flopper
[video=youtube;N6K9dS9wl7U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K9dS9wl7U[/video]He specifically says he against against gay marriage.

 

So you did not read my link to hotair. maybe you do not remember obama going to court for DADT.

Obama is the same as Kerry. I was against it now I am for it. it is all about politics not principle.

But of course you never believe Obama is a liar or has no integrity even though he shows it almost every day

 

Obviously, every politician needs money and vote to continue it's mission! The corporations and lobbyists have made sure of that!
And obviously an intelligent candidate would not come to the elections with his own $4 or $5 millions worth. . .when his opponents comes with hundreds of millions!

However, the fact that 30 states have declared that marriage is between a man and a woman doesn't mean that it reflects TODAY's public opinion. Even in the last 4 years!
Many of those State laws have been passed several years ago. . . and OBVIOUSLY a state like CA who doesn't recognize gay marriage has a majority of people who support gay marriage. . .but the OUTSIDE money from Religious organizations and stupid people took all those people who thought that gay marriage legality was a "no brainer" by surprise. . .

In the next few years, the same issue will be brought back to many voters in many of those states. .. and the result will be very different!

Face it. . .opponents of gay marriage are dinosaurs on the path to extinction. MOST young people (and many older people, parents, or family members of gay people, or just supporter of equal rights for ALL) support gay marriage. And. .. they are the future!

So. . I don't have a problem with dinosaurs hanging to life for another few years, the fact is that they will NOT last for another 20 years!

 

No you're right I believe he's a liar with a small shred of integrity on issues that are politically expedient. You believe he's taking a position widely unpopular with the American people not me. Your link doesn't mention don't ask don't tell, and basically outlines what has been said here already that he supported gay marriage then he supported civil unions. Now he supports gay marriage again. What I've been telling you is that is not a flip flop it's a policy shift not a position shift Obama has always supported if not marriage for homosexuals, an option that was legally equal to marriage.. A point which you have totally avoided as though you were a campaign slogan generator bound and determine on getting your flip flopping John Kerry comparison in at the expense of all reason.

 

he lost the racist vote cause of the color of his skin and he will lose the sexist vote because of his stance on same sex marriage.... I do not think many fit in those two categories.. they are becoming a minority
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Keep dreaming. North Carolina went Obama in 2008 yet 60% voted marriage is man and woman.

What you miss is that people say one thing on a poll and vote another way.

It is not about money it is about the bible and morals. Obama made a mistake using the Bible and claiming the golden rule as a reason to support gay marriage. it just shows Christians he is no Christian and does not know what jesus said.

 

So you only read what you want. You missed this

 

I hope that you are right. Perhaps it is the area that I am from, but things still seem very conservative. I am in Canada at the moment, and it is interesting to see how a more liberal social stance by a Government can effect a societies social conscious... or perhaps it is the other way around.

 

This country is said to be 70% Christian. Obama coming against the Catholic church and now this will turn away many Christians of all races

 

Obama coming against the Catholic church and now this will turn away many Christians of all races. ptif210

You mean "flip flopper" Obama coming against the Catholic church and now this will turn away many Christians of all races?

 

I like presidents who change their position when they are confronted with a moral dilemma. Flip-flopper is overused rhetoric.

Romney has changed his position on many issues and that is why I like him. I don't want a president to stick to his guns on things like Socialized Medicine when it is obviously bankrupting the country and not delivering as expected. Romney realizing that if it isn't okay to kill a 1 second year old live baby then why is it 1 second before birth and if that isn't okay then how about 1 minute before birth? 1 hour? there is no good place to draw the line so I'm glad Romney changed his position on that.

I'm still looking for a good answer to this question anonymous or otherwise --> #gaymarriage

 

While I personally believe same sex marriage should be allowed, I do not believe this will help Obama in November. Some middle of the road voters for whom this is the most important issue may now support Obama but it will at least be offset by the protestants that might have stayed home instead of voting for a Mormon. I honestly believe if this helps anyone it will be Romney.

 

No I read the out of context quote in that pathetic article. You realize in that same line of questioning in that debate he said ALL marriage is not a civil right, and goes on to say that he supports civil unions, and equal rights to married couples and homosexual couples as I've said 4 times now, and gotten B...but DUH article sez! But I digress. It is basically just a watered down form of gay marriage, and a totally spineless way of stating a pro gay rights position, but it's still a pro gay rights position. I'm glad the moderator made him squirm with a follow up comparing it to separate but equal, but again not a flip flop.

 

So you don't like the article that proves Obama flip flopped? You are wrong. Civil unions would be fine with most people against gay marriage because it stops marriage which most see as a covenant with God from being perverted. I have on forums presented this to gays that if they could have civil unions that gave them everything marriage gives would that be okay. The answer is always no. This tells me it is not really about taxes or wills or hospital visitation rights it is about coming against Christians and what they see as a Holy ceremony.


Being for civil unions is not the same as marriage. So what Obama has done is a flip flop

 

People have no right to force their opinions on others.

Christians should stop their war on homosexuals.

Civil unions are not marriages, and Christians need to shut the hell up, mind their own business, and keep their religious crap to themselves, and stop thinking they have the right to force their views on everyone else. Gay marriage harms no one, therefore there is no reason to oppose it.

Well done to Obama.

 

People have no right to force their opinions on others.

Christians should stop their war on homosexuals.

Civil unions are not marriages, and Christians need to shut the hell up, mind their own business, and keep their religious crap to themselves, and stop thinking they have the right to force their views on everyone else. Gay marriage harms no one, therefore there is no reason to oppose it.

Well done to Obama.

 

Who does he think he's kidding?

Look at what he said in the interview:

“I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,”


See what he really said? "for me personally it is important for me"
Could he be any more of an idiot? He said it's all about him. What HE needs to do for HIM.
Translation: I have to do this to get money from gay bundlers at the fund-raiser tonight.

 

It isn't a moral dilemma for the President but a political one. Biden forced this political decision during this campaign.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/my-behalf_644310.html

 

Hang on. Blacks who vote are heavily Church going, and Baptist. The Black Baptist Church is well known for influencing the Black vote. Young Blacks don't vote much, so Obama has created a lot of disappointment in the Black community.....and now this. More Blacks sitting this one out. Dang-

 

I don't hate freedom you see because I am definitely in favor of Gay Divorce!