Obama: 'I think same sex couples should be able to get married'. Impact on election?

I have shown it is not about rights otherwise civil unions with the same rights would be a solution. Gays refuse to accept civil unions
The hate and bigotry is on the gays

 

don't agree, but if republicans want to run on that.. so be it

 

Not a bad idea since most of the country agrees with them, as the voting has consistently shown.

 

hope they do... think they would lose

 

Why should gay people accept second best?

 

so you think that each state has exactly one fiftieth of the population? 76% of the states does not equal 76% of the population. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>>

 

If it is about benefits the name should mean nothing. This shows me it is about coming against what Christians see as a religious covenant with God.

 

Gay people don't want to trample on a religious covenant. How many Christians were married by a civil celebrant? Probably quite a few.

 

While I am against gay marriage, most arguments of the right sound quite hollow. Marriages pre dates before Christianity and is not exclusive to any culture or religion. Its practised in all cultures and religions all over the world, so to say that it is a religious covenant is BS. The state would be handing the couple a marriage license without any involvement if the church whatsoever. I fail to see how it infringes on your religious covenant with God. By that logic, you should fight against marriages with all non Christians including atheists.

 

Why get obsessed with what God thinks or doesn't ? It's what he does that is key .
He spends most of his time banging away with his own son which I always thought was rather a good Gay role model or example .
I'm pumping for Jesus . And also with him .We are one . The Heavenly Shaggers .
Good enough for God . Then it's good enough for us Darling men .
Paul 15 , 67-751

 

That's funny but I never considered having equal rights as being "second best." I feel strongly that anyone wishing to be in a committed realtionship should have equal rights but I'm not a single issue voter. If Barack Obama quit being a far-left liberal, a socialist, a racist, and a terrible liar I might consider voting for him. Of course, that's never going to happen so his decision on gay marriage has no effect on my vote.

 

So know you want to use assumptions and opinions? I was married by a notary that used scripture which was a surprise to us. We did not mind though

 

I fail to see how a civil union with all the legal benefits of marriage is less or not a solution

 

'Separate but equal' is not equal.

Next.

 

Civil unions are NOT the same as marriages!!!!

 

I don't think he really cares about gay rights really. He said it as a political maneuver. I and many others can see right through it, but many will believe he is earnest and so I think it will give him a (very small) boost. Obama will win in 2012 regardless.

 

Funny... remember when that big nice supreme court decided separate but equal was not equal and not constitutional? Everyone in America has the pursuit of happiness. If part of that happiness is getting married, then you cannot deny that to consenting legal Americans.

 

Funny... remember when that big nice supreme court decided separate but equal was not equal and not constitutional? Everyone in America has the pursuit of happiness. If part of that happiness is getting married, then you cannot deny that to consenting legal Americans.

 

I agree, it was a huge blunder by oboobma. But he was going to get whipped anyway, this will make it even more decisive.

 

If only Governments offered "Union Licenses" which was merely a contract by two or more parties that is 100% similar to that of a Marriage yet, was based purely on their simply being two or more parties. While marriage itself was purely an Individual and/or Religious choice as to how perform it personally... Government shouldn't be in the Business of deciding Social Issues nor should the general public if it doesn't harm anyone.

 

anecdotal and irrelevant. The point is: marriage in America certainly CAN be a religious event, and for those who want to have God be a part of their wedding and their lives, that is certainly an option. But there is no requirement that matrimony be "holy" in any way. Fifteen years ago or so, I became a notary public so that I could assist nursing home residents with absentee voting. The added side benefit of having that slip of paper was that I was authorized by the state I lived in to perform weddings. And I did perform two. Not one single mention of God or any deity or higher power was mentioned in either ceremony. Years later, I was a licensed minister serving an interim ministry position at a church in that same state and performed the sacrament of marriage with several faithful couples. Those couples that I married in the church were no more or less married in the eyes of the state than the ones I did as a Notary.

Marriage CAN be a religious event, or it can be a strictly civil event. No gay marriage laws now on the books or pending would require a church or a pastor to perform a wedding ceremony for two gay people if it was against the beliefs of that church or that pastor.

 

Key word there. I can see a day when being a heterosexual white male means that you don't get a job and your church has been disband because the ACLU calls scripture hate speech. Only Christian scripture though and predominately in only white churches. The muslims and the Louis guy can spread hate and that old preacher of Obama can keep asking God to (*)(*)(*)(*) America.

 

So what if you can see a day? Rabid paranoia and slippery-slope fantasy does not get to dictate U.S. law.

You're arguing, in essence, that the speed limit should remain at 55mph today because there exists the possibility, in some nebulous future, that someone might argue drunk driving is safe.

 

It has already happened. Look at history and see the tide.

Think what you want but I see things that are in my face.

 

Really, where in history was it made that a heterosexual white male can't get a job?