What is the meaning of this term "supernatural"?

Simple: right here: http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/255753-what-meaning-term-supernatural-5.html#post1061450268
"Spiritual discernment is not, as those that claim it come to varied and incompatible conclusions, making reliance on it impossible. "

Prove your claim else the fact of your lie is known.

Another is your claim that you posted a definition of 'projectionist' ... you did not make such a posting.

 

There is no point in arguing your lies. Show the post where I have admitted to being a troll, else, you will again be noted as telling lies.

 

Another of your lies. I was not asked to look up the definition of 'pseudonym'.

 

There is the post where I asked you to look up pseudonym. There is where I asked you to show there is any credibility to your usage of projectionist. I posted it in another thread where you used the term incorrectly. I'm not going to go back searching for it. You have zero integrity, and no credibility on these boards. You have become a punchline.

I won't go back and look up the other thread, but here's the definition of projectionist again. Your usage of it is incorrect.

pro·jec·tion·ist (pr-jksh-nst)
n.
1. One who operates a movie projector.
2. A maker of map projections.

 

Great news! I found the post where I had previously given you the definition of projectionist. Post 381 in the thread "God is a logical conclusion".
That is categorical proof of that lie of yours.

As for discernment, you made the statement it's a lie. Prove it. You have stated it, but given no evidence. You have made the accusation of the lie. It is up to you to back up your statement. You would have to show that people with discernment all come to the same conclusions about scripture and how to identify those that have it and those that don't.

 

supernatural (adj.) Look up supernatural at Dictionary.com

Etymology: supernatural

early 15c. "above nature, transcending nature, belonging to a higher realm," from M.L. supernaturalis "above or beyond nature," from L. super "above" (see super-) + natura "nature" (see nature). Originally with more of a religious sense, "of or given by God, divine; heavenly;" association with ghosts, etc., has predominated since c.1799.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=supernatural

Creator God works through and outside of nature aka The Creator of all that is seen and unseen.

I hope the above explanation helps solve your confusion.

 

Yes, it helps. Especially this part: "Originally with more of a religious sense, "of or given by God, divine; heavenly;" association with ghosts, etc., has predominated since c.1799."

If the term literally means "having to do with God" then I can accept that it still refers to a PART of the overall nature which includes God and angels and whatever else might exist that we don't really know about.

I got the sense that putting God outside of nature with that term doesn't do Him justice. If He is real, then He would not fit into my understanding of the term "supernatural." But with that definition, it is clear that "super" just implies another part of, perhaps better or more powerful. Like the Super Bowl is still a bowl... just not like the bowls we usually think of as final college games of the season.

Thanks Joan.

 

You're most welcome, Maytag.

What I perceive the Biblical problem to be is ancient man's understanding of an all-encompassing Multifaceted Force, which defies man's simplistic understanding. The ancients gave Supernatural Agent God (my beloved term of endearment) human characteristics i.e. Father, arms, palms, eyes, ears, voice, etc to better relate to the ancient social structure. A Father's love (male oriented world) is unconditional. He is also authoritative, and will occasionally punish. So we, having been born God's children, were created in the image and likeness of our Father (God).

Fortunately, the Bible was not meant to be an ancient science text book. It's a journey of faith, written by human authors, while inspired by The Most High Creator of All.

Jesus continues the tone simply because ancient people related best to the simple things in their lives as well as nature. Jesus' parables teach us as much. If you think about it, what spiritual use would it provide ancient man if Jesus decided to explain the Law of Thermodynamics, Quantum Mechanics, and emerging scientific theories we have yet to discover? Most modern laypeople have enough difficulty understanding such things. Can you imagine the ancient ones attempting to understand? Forget crucifying Jesus. They would have locked him up, and threw away the key. Most importantly, Jesus would not have been able to fulfill scripture.

Articles and Teachings; True Name of God
http://www.all-creatures.org/ahlc/art-truename.shtml

 

An interesting thought: if God did wish to include something in the text that would only be interpretable by modern humans with scientific knowledge, such a phrase might have been discarded by the canonizers (not necessarily the most recent ones who compiled the KJV, but maybe even the Hebrews writing the OT), to whom it made no sense.

 

True, and perhaps telling would be the fact that Jesus wasn't exactly on the ancient Hebrews Hanukkah card list.

 

Any competent God who wished to include anything in the text certainly could have also ensured its retention.

 

You did not ask me to look up the definition of pseudonym; you asked that I verify that Twain is a pseudonym.
"He's a real writer, and Twain is a pseudonym. Look that up."

"there", where?

Another empty claim of something you allege to have done. If you have done so, then post a link to the location where you did it. You won't show such a posting from the past, because you did not post the definition prior to the posting to which I am currently responding to.

Unfortunately, I am not allowed to say what everyone is recognizing you as. The fact that you are constantly making misrepresentations and telling lies, is telling enough.

Well, gee, why don't we try to keep things in context. Try this definition:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/projectionist

 

That is also categorical proof that you lied in your last post where you stated twice that you would not take the time to look it up. I find it amazing however, that even though you post a number where that post is supposed to be, you did not provide a link. For all I know, you are merely sending someone on a wild goose chase.

I made the statement "its a lie" in regard to your statement that was quoted. You were challenged to prove that claim and you have made no attempt at proving that claim. You claimed that reliance on discernment was impossible, therefore, you need to prove that claim.

 

You are an amazing humiliation to your own reputation. You, and everyone else, knows exactly where to look to confirm you are an egregious liar. This was the most pathetic attempt to avoid the truth I have ever seen on these boards.
You are done, dude. There's nothing left to you.
So you reject Jesus' recommendation of dusting off your sandals and leaving? I think you should take His advice. For your own sake, leave.

 

Are you suggesting that you know the thoughts of those ancients who are now dead and gone? How do you KNOW that it made no sense to them?

 

Where is the link. You say that you went to the trouble to find it. If in fact you found it, you also would have had the opportunity to copy the link location and would then have been able to post it with your declaration of having found it. You did none of the above. Post the link.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/252185-god-logical-conclusion-39.html

Knock yourself out, cretin.

 

None of the definitions you posted here show "projectionist" as an extension of the word "projection". Total and complete failure, again.

 

Gee then I get to hold you at your word:
"proved you wrong about "projectionist" by posting the definition from a source you often use. If you can show another source that shows the term being defined the way you used it, feel free. I will, as I always do if proven wrong, stand corrected."

See the bottom of this link and be prepared: http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/255753-what-meaning-term-supernatural-7.html#post1061470691

BTW: It is nice for you to be cross-threading information,,, but hey everyone does it.

 

I already addressed this in my last post. None of those definitions show "projectionist" as a usable form of the word "projection".

Just stop. This is getting so embarrassing for you. It's very hard to watch. Each time you make yourself more and more absurd, and bump the thread up so everyone can watch you make a complete fool of yourself. Please stop. It was fun for awhile, but now I just pity you.

Why not simply apologize and move on? You would start to build some tiny amount of credibility back.

 

You better look at that page of definitions a little closer. You seem to be so ate up with the idea of loosing this little discussion, that you are getting careless.... here let me help you.... found on the same page :

"pro·jec·tion (pr-jkshn)
n.
1. The act of projecting or the condition of being projected.
2. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or suppositions to others.
3. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.
4. The localization of visual impressions to a point in space relative to the person who is doing the viewing: straight ahead, right, left, above, or below.
5. Any of the systems of nerve fibers by which a group of nerve cells discharges its nerve impulses to one or more other cell groups."

Plus there are still other definitions of the term 'projection' found on that same page. More of your false representations.

 

What is wrong with you? Seriously!
Nowhere in what you posted is the word "projectionist" either used or defined. It doesn't show it to be a correct extension of the word "projection" used in the context of the medical application. The only definition of "projectionist" you will find is the one I provided, and you have shown yourself to have a complete lack of integrity in regards to this. You are so desperate not to be wrong, you are making a clown show of your integrity.
Just say you blew it and move on. Each time you compound your absurdity and bump the thread up so everyone can enjoy the circus.

 

Wrong again. You do seriously need to learn to read: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/projectionist
look at the top of that page in the box next to the 'search' button. Click on the search button and guess what... you come back to the same page. While you are learning to read, also learn how to use a dictionary.

 

But it doesn't bring you to a definition of the word you're searching for. It brings you to the closest match, which is not projectionist, is it? And the definitions of "projection" it gives don't show projectionist as an acceptable derivative of that word, as dictionaries do. That is one of the ways to use a dictionary. You can use it to find variations on a word. In the medical use of the word "projection", there is no derivative "projectionist". That word is reserved for people operating equipment used in movie viewing. You have repeatedly proved this.
Let's recap.
We confirmed that you lied about me not providing the definition before. You provided a definition to a different word and pretended that it was the same word, which has been categorically proven that it is not. We have confirmed that you misused the word "projectionist", and we confirmed that your lack of self esteem and pathetic ego will not allow you to admit that you have been lying and making basic grammatical mistakes.
All of this has been indisputably proven.
Nothing but pity. I have never seen such a pitiful display.
Keep bumping this. I can't be the only one enjoying your self destructive behavior.

 

But it does. By association. The addition of the suffix "ist" is the key: Of course I really don't expect you to understand that so here it is from the dictionary:
"-ist
suff.
1.
a. One that performs a specified action: lobbyist.
b. One that produces, makes, operates, plays, or is connected with a specified thing: novelist.
2. A specialist in a specified art, science, or skill: biologist.
3. An adherent or advocate of a specified doctrine, theory, or school of thought: anarchist.
4. One that is characterized by a specified trait or quality: romanticist."

Projection = the act of projecting.
+
ist = the one who does the act (in this case the act of projecting)

Resulting in "projectionist". Get some education.